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Is God a logical contradiction?
RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
How do you know monkey's don't have a conscience?
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
(February 9, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote:
(September 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Given the thousands of pages they wrote to figure out what God is, and why it's necessary, I don't think "on the fly" is a fair characterization. 


This is our modern feeling. 

The arguments of the people you dismiss are based on obvious facts about the universe which, they feel very sincerely, point to a God when properly analyzed. God, in their view, "demonstrate[s] itself to us" by being the logical conclusion of questions we ask about existence.

I know you don't think their conclusions are correct, so you don't have to remind me of that.

I DISAGREE. IT ISNT MODERN OUR THINKING HAS LASTED SINCE THE BEGINNING. MONKEYS DONT HAVE A CONSCIENCE.

Actually, they do and we can prove it. So either you are ignorant or lying. Which is it?
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
Quote:REMEMBER GOD IS BEYOND AND ABOVE US IN EVERY WAY. 

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Quote:IT MAKES SENSE FOR HIM TO BE NOT UNDERSTANDABLE. 

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Quote:IT PROVES HES NOT MAN MADE. EVERYTHING SPIRITUAL (THE HUMAN SOUL, DEMONS AND ANGELS AND GOD, ETC) IS IMMATERIAL WE CANT EXPLAIN WHAT IS ABOVE US. IF WE COULD THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ABOVE US. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS AFTER DEATH?
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"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
(February 9, 2020 at 3:54 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(February 9, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote: I DISAGREE. IT ISNT MODERN OUR THINKING HAS LASTED SINCE THE BEGINNING. MONKEYS DONT HAVE A CONSCIENCE.

Actually, they do and we can prove it. So either you are ignorant or lying. Which is it?

They might, but you can't prove it.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
Quote:I DISAGREE. IT ISNT MODERN OUR THINKING HAS LASTED SINCE THE BEGINNING. 

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Quote:MONKEYS DONT HAVE A CONSCIENCE.
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Quote:They might, but you can't prove it.
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"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
(February 9, 2020 at 4:07 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(February 9, 2020 at 3:54 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Actually, they do and we can prove it. So either you are ignorant or lying. Which is it?

They might, but you can't prove it.

Still trying to deny reality.

Last I looked, chimpanzees, orangs and dolphins have been conclusively demonstrated to exhibit altruism, empathy, conscience, grief, generosity, selflessness etc.

Since I am not current, other species may have been added.

Humans are no more than an ape. Your religion demands that you blindly deny anything that takes away from humans being special because GAWD.

Nobody can stop you wallowing in your own ignorance but you, yourself.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
(February 9, 2020 at 4:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(February 9, 2020 at 4:07 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: They might, but you can't prove it.

Still trying to deny reality.

Last I looked, chimpanzees, orangs and dolphins have been conclusively demonstrated to exhibit altruism, empathy, conscience, grief, generosity, selflessness etc.

Since I am not current, other species may have been added.

Humans are no more than an ape. Your religion demands that you blindly deny anything that takes away from humans being special because GAWD.

Nobody can stop you wallowing in your own ignorance but you, yourself.

Such behaviors are not indicative of consciences.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
Quote:Such behaviors are not indicative of consciences.
Yes they are
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
A wide range of animals exhibit the behaviors we associate with conscience in human beings. They may not, in fact, be indicative of conscience...but if that were so, we probably shouldn't assert that they are in our own case either.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
(February 9, 2020 at 4:32 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(February 9, 2020 at 4:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Still trying to deny reality.

Last I looked, chimpanzees, orangs and dolphins have been conclusively demonstrated to exhibit altruism, empathy, conscience, grief, generosity, selflessness etc.

Since I am not current, other species may have been added.

Humans are no more than an ape. Your religion demands that you blindly deny anything that takes away from humans being special because GAWD.

Nobody can stop you wallowing in your own ignorance but you, yourself.

Such behaviors are not indicative of consciences.

You think ALL humans have consciences? What about psychopaths, paedophiles etc ad inf? Or are the not Gawd's creatures or something...
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