White Supremacy is not a shark; It is the water.

                                                -Guante

Is that why the brothers can't swim?

(February 10, 2020 at 3:00 pm)no one Wrote: Is that why the brothers can't swim?

My, my....Check out the claws on Mr/Ms  "I-Don't-See-Color-There's-Only-One-Race".

Reowr!

Is that a yes?

 When talking about racism makes people angrier than actual racism.


Triggered as fuck....LOL

(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(February 9, 2020 at 9:03 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: Black people don't have that luxury. for example, I live in and open carry state and white people are able to open carry all up in the grocery store, do you think it'd be a good idea for me to live my life completely uncaring of race and do the same?

No. I asked you to imagine being someone who doesn't care about race. I don't at all suggest that black people have that luxury, though I think they probably do in some areas.

What do you suggest? That I not speak truth because it makes some people who 'don't care about race' uncomfortable?

(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:

Quote:Do you believe that the Jews should not have gotten reparations also?

Jews who were alive during the Holocaust and were harmed by it should, yes. People who were never slaves should not get reparations for slavery from people who never owned slaves. That sets a crazy precedent where we can all go after societies around the globe for historical grievances belonging to our ancestors.

So you suggest we set a precedent by letting the victims die off, that way nothing has to be paid... why didn't Germany think of that. Also the U.S. was never involved in perpetrating the holocaust, please tell me why WE paid money to the survivors?

Slavery was government sanctioned, last time I looked, the government of the U.S. is still here, and all the wealth generated through stolen labor is still here. You may not have owned slaves, but you benefit off of an economy built by slavery.

(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:

Quote:Why are you taking what I said personally?

I'm not. What aren't you addressing my point? I know, but not personally in the way you would, that being black leads to lots of racial profiling and worse. Still, that doesn't change the fact that it makes white people who aren't racist feel icky when someone suggests white people are by default racist or every time we disagree with you it has something to do with race.

*emphasis mine*

But the MAJORITY of white people voted for Trump (who surrounded himself with white supremacists)... people who voted against their own interests in order to maintain white supremacy

(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's like you can't imagine that one of us lighter toned folk wasn't even thinking about Kobe being black while talking about his life.

I can pull up a thread right now of people on this forum making excuses for Harvey Milk's rape. Also not one mention of the rape allegations in Kirk Douglas's R.I.P. thread.

The me too movement produced 2 documentary films and is working on a third ALL ARE ABOUT BLACK MEN.

Black men are what? like 5% of hollywood yet 100% of the documentaries about sexual misconduct are about black men. Gail King was comfortable enough to bring up Kobe's allegations in an interview even though the charges were dropped, but when it comes to white folk like Charlie Rose It's...

(February 10, 2020 at 2:55 pm)Athene Wrote: White Supremacy is not a shark; It is the water.

                                                -Guante

Not all white people care for white supremacy or are remotely racist. Just think some folks need reminding of that fact. I don't care to be stereotyped any more than black people do.

(February 10, 2020 at 5:56 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: What do you suggest? That I not speak truth because it makes some people who 'don't care about race' uncomfortable?

No. I suggest that you don't paint everyone of a single race with one brush and try to recognize that things aren't always about race.

(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote: So you suggest we set a precedent by letting the victims die off, that way nothing has to be paid... why didn't Germany think of that. Also the U.S. was never involved in perpetrating the holocaust, please tell me why WE paid money to the survivors?

Nope. I still don't see why you should get paid for something that didn't happen to you.

Quote:Slavery was government sanctioned, last time I looked, the government of the U.S. is still here, and all the wealth generated through stolen labor is still here. You may not have owned slaves, but you benefit off of an economy built by slavery.

So do you, bud.

It's positively fucked that you seem to think I should have to pay you for something I never did.

Quote:But the MAJORITY of white people voted for Trump (who surrounded himself with white supremacists)... people who voted against their own interests in order to maintain white supremacy

Trump didn't get the majority. Do you know something I don't know?

Majority means dick. The majority of black people could be circus performers and I still wouldn't assume you were based on your skin color. It's not like I'm colorblind, but I do try not to make assumptions or blanket statements. Call me on it if I do.

Quote:I can pull up a thread right now of people on this forum making excuses for Harvey Milk's rape. Also not one mention of the rape allegations in Kirk Douglas's R.I.P. thread.

Do you think that means every white person on this forum is racist? I don't start threads about rape, usually. I also don't attend them much. Is that racist of me?

The me too movement produced 2 documentary films and is working on a third ALL ARE ABOUT BLACK MEN.

I don't deny there's racial inequality. What I object to is you blaming it on every white person. I'm just working and paying my bills. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no color check at my door and I vote in favor of minority interests more often than not.

Athene:
 When talking about racism makes people angrier than actual racism.


Triggered as fuck....LOL

When your boo-hoos are treated as the horseshit that they are, so you scream out an even bigger boo-hoo.

Seriously though, Is that a yes?

(February 10, 2020 at 6:02 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(February 10, 2020 at 2:55 pm)Athene Wrote: White Supremacy is not a shark; It is the water.

                                                -Guante

Not all white people care for white supremacy or are remotely racist. Just think some folks need reminding of that fact. I don't care to be stereotyped any more than black people do.

I didn't stereotype anyone with that quote, Shell. Nor was I wasn't calling you out, specifically.

The quote simply illustrates how White Supremacy is perceived VS what it actually is. It is not simply a matter of a few Neo-Nazi screaming "We hate n**gers!" at a rally or other assorted "baddies" wearing their hatred on their sleeves.

It is systemic. 
A system of systems right here, today, in the Land of the Free that impact and shape millions of people's lives in countless horrific ways that most people are unaware of or simply do not wish to see.

And while the U.S. government is the architect of White Supremacy in this country, systemic racism could not persist without the majority of this nation's citizens toeing the line for it, pretending it's just a matter of a few bad apples and thus "not that bad", or that it doesn't exist at all.

That's the truth.