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[Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 12:49 am
A strange verse in the Quran says:
Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 12 ) And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
This verse explicitly says that the night has hidden facts that were erased, or in other words "made invisible".
Science today did find out that the night does indeed carry invisible things, and it was called "dark energy" and "dark matter".
In my perspective, the cosmos -which is in constant night- carries lots of signs that are not visible; erased if I want to use the same language of the Quran.
That verse spoke about dark energy and matter.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 12:51 am
They didn't have access to crack back then, did they?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 1:23 am
That's like when Muslims say that Muhammad's flight on his winged horse across the 7 layers of heaven (event of miraj) with each being populated with people is actually him traveling through a wormhole and that Einstein learned about theory of relativity from reading about event of miraj in Koran and that's how he developed it.
https://www.slideshare.net/AhmedShahid/s...t-of-miraj
In other words it's just lies that delusional people tell each other.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 1:29 am
(April 25, 2020 at 1:23 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's like when Muslims say that Muhammad's flight on his winged horse across the 7 layers of heaven (event of miraj) with each being populated with people is actually him traveling through a wormhole and that Einstein learned about theory of relativity from reading about event of miraj in Koran and that's how he developed it.
https://www.slideshare.net/AhmedShahid/s...t-of-miraj
In other words it's just lies that delusional people tell each other.
There is no "story" of Me'raj in the Quran; there is only this verse:
Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 1 ) Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.
So I don't know what you're talking about..It seems you are taking your information from the Hadith, and this is about the Quran not the Hadith books.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 1:41 am
I know it's from Koran and Hadiths and not just any Hadiths but very important ones, considering they describe "important" event and that even you consider those Hadiths important, like if you pray 5 times a day, because praying 5 times a day is established in those Hadiths.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 2:00 am
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2020 at 2:00 am by WinterHold.)
(April 25, 2020 at 1:41 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I know it's from Koran and Hadiths and not just any Hadiths but very important ones, considering they describe "important" event and that even you consider those Hadiths important, like if you pray 5 times a day, because praying 5 times a day is established in those Hadiths.
No, what you say is from the Hadith only, bot.
And it was proved in the post above that the Quran has no mention to the things you say.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 3:12 am
Quote:This verse explicitly says that the night has hidden facts that were erased, or in other words "made invisible".
Science today did find out that the night does indeed carry invisible things, and it was called "dark energy" and "dark matter".
Space isn't the night and of course things are hidden in the dark
Quote:In my perspective, the cosmos -which is in constant night- carries lots of signs that are not visible; erased if I want to use the same language of the Quran.
No it's not .Night doesn't apply to space
Quote:That verse spoke about dark energy and matter.
No it freaking doesn't
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 3:33 am
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2020 at 3:34 am by Deesse23.)
(April 25, 2020 at 12:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: A strange verse in the Quran says:
Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 12 ) And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.
This verse explicitly says that the night has hidden facts that were erased, or in other words "made invisible".
Science today did find out that the night does indeed carry invisible things, and it was called "dark energy" and "dark matter".
In my perspective, the cosmos -which is in constant night- carries lots of signs that are not visible; erased if I want to use the same language of the Quran.
That verse spoke about dark energy and matter.
Erased is not invisible, not at all 
The cosmos is not constant night, its mostly dark energy, a bit dark matter, almost none baryonic matter, and permeated by photons (light). But its certainly not constant night.
That verse could say anything (else) or nothing at all.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 3:43 am
(April 25, 2020 at 3:33 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (April 25, 2020 at 12:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: A strange verse in the Quran says:
This verse explicitly says that the night has hidden facts that were erased, or in other words "made invisible".
Science today did find out that the night does indeed carry invisible things, and it was called "dark energy" and "dark matter".
In my perspective, the cosmos -which is in constant night- carries lots of signs that are not visible; erased if I want to use the same language of the Quran.
That verse spoke about dark energy and matter.
Erased is not invisible, not at all
The cosmos is not constant night, its mostly dark energy, a bit dark matter, almost none baryonic matter, and permeated by photons (light). But its certainly not constant night.
That verse could say anything (else) or nothing at all. Not to mention the term night cant be applied to space
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: dark energy and dark matter
April 25, 2020 at 4:22 am
(April 25, 2020 at 3:12 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:This verse explicitly says that the night has hidden facts that were erased, or in other words "made invisible".
Science today did find out that the night does indeed carry invisible things, and it was called "dark energy" and "dark matter".
Space isn't the night and of course things are hidden in the dark
Quote:In my perspective, the cosmos -which is in constant night- carries lots of signs that are not visible; erased if I want to use the same language of the Quran.
No it's not .Night doesn't apply to space
Quote:That verse spoke about dark energy and matter.
No it freaking doesn't
Night does apply to space, and the witness is that it needs to be lightened by stars.
Playing around the meanings of well understood words will get you nowhere.
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