(May 14, 2020 at 2:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm a vocal critic of defending my home with a firearm....but all of that goes out the window if The Wife is bleeding out in my arms. There is no amount of death and carnage and confusion and downright unconscionable villainy that this wouldn't lead me to. It would break me, in an instant.

All Americans should be at that point already.

This country cannot be reformed.

(May 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm)CarveTheFive Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm a vocal critic of defending my home with a firearm....but all of that goes out the window if The Wife is bleeding out in my arms.  There is no amount of death and carnage and confusion and downright unconscionable villainy that this wouldn't lead me to.  It would break me, in an instant.

All Americans should be at that point already.

This country cannot be reformed.

I am only one but I refuse to let Trump break me or my faith this country can swing the pendulum the other way.  I hope my health holds out so that I live to see that day that miserable fuck dies a slow and tortuous death.

(May 14, 2020 at 2:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 1:47 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Crips" was just a generic threat reference. Would she shoot at the cops? I hope not. Would she shoot at people she perceived to a threat? I would. But I'd ID the target first. They have to come to me, giving me the advantage.

You would?

With what?

Being a responsible gun owner I would go down to the range, wait for them to open, withdraw my piece from the lockbox where I keep it, come back to the house and shoot like a fucking maniac. Some people skip some of these steps.

(May 14, 2020 at 2:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You would?

With what?

Being a responsible gun owner I would go down to the range, wait for them to open, withdraw my piece from the lockbox where I keep it, come back to the house and shoot like a fucking maniac. Some people skip some of these steps.

That isn't a responsible gun owner.

It's somebody who refuses to take responsiblity for their ownership.

And totally unrealistic.

But have fun with it.

(May 14, 2020 at 2:54 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:49 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Being a responsible gun owner I would go down to the range, wait for them to open, withdraw my piece from the lockbox where I keep it, come back to the house and shoot like a fucking maniac. Some people skip some of these steps.

That isn't a responsible gun owner.

It's somebody who refuses to take responsiblity for their ownership.

And totally unrealistic.

But have fun with it.

A responsible gun owner doesn't put other people at risk. That means storing your gun safely. That means it's not ready for immediate use.

(May 14, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:54 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: That isn't a responsible gun owner.

It's somebody who refuses to take responsiblity for their ownership.

And totally unrealistic.

But have fun with it.

A responsible gun owner doesn't put other people at risk. That means storing your gun safely. That means it's not ready for immediate use.

And you are not storing your guns.


You are having someone else do it for you. 


That is not assuming responsibility - it is shirking it.


Your last part is just ridiculous.

And here I thought Brian would be the one to turn this into a gun thread. Silly me.

Boru

(May 14, 2020 at 3:13 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: A responsible gun owner doesn't put other people at risk. That means storing your gun safely. That means it's not ready for immediate use.

And you are not storing your guns.


You are having someone else do it for you. 


That is not assuming responsibility - it is shirking it.


Your last part is just ridiculous.

Just because it nullifies certain people's fantasy doesn't make it ridiculous, just not what they want to hear. Too bad.

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(May 14, 2020 at 3:13 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: And you are not storing your guns.


You are having someone else do it for you. 


That is not assuming responsibility - it is shirking it.


Your last part is just ridiculous.

This is just silly. I store the guns where we shoot the guns. No danger of them being used by anyone at our home. No danger of them being stolen from our home. No danger of them being lost in transit to the place where we shoot the guns. The gun store has storage lockers specifically for these reasons. As a responsible gun owner these are the steps I take to prevent someone from being shot with our guns.

(May 14, 2020 at 2:38 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm)CarveTheFive Wrote: All Americans should be at that point already.

This country cannot be reformed.

I am only one but I refuse to let Trump break me or my faith this country can swing the pendulum the other way.  I hope my health holds out so that I live to see that day that miserable fuck dies a slow and tortuous death.

That’ll be a happy day but the next morning we’ll wake up and still be in America. And America cannot be reformed.

(May 14, 2020 at 4:19 pm)CarveTheFive Wrote:

(May 14, 2020 at 2:38 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am only one but I refuse to let Trump break me or my faith this country can swing the pendulum the other way.  I hope my health holds out so that I live to see that day that miserable fuck dies a slow and tortuous death.

That’ll be a happy day but the next morning we’ll wake up and still be in America. And America cannot be reformed.

Give up if you want to.