(June 8, 2020 at 2:35 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 1:32 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Having a modern day equivalent of a group that existed for exactly two years back in the 30s  is not the same as "having them around since then". It's not even an equivalent, by the way. It was inspired by the old one, but is still different..

You are stupid beyond belief.

it can be said the neo nazis , an organization who been around since the original national workers socialist group? being made up of the same ideals symbols ideologies and even some of the same people originally.

Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive and implement the ideology of Nazism. Neo-Nazis seek to employ their ideology to promote hatred and attack minorities, or in some cases to create a fascist state.[1][2] It is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries and international networks. It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, anti-Romanyism, antisemitism, anti-communism and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism

If this is not the same or the modern equivalent of then why is it still considered Nazism? neo-nazism is infact the legacy of the third reich. as the modern day seeks to model itself after what was. the same can be said with antifa. they took the ideology, they took the tactics, they are using riots politically and even do so under the antifa flag. they did this just like the neo Nazi did. to argue this is to willfully turn a blind eye to history and what is comming for you antifites. which i would remain silent just to hear what Guantanamo bay is like this time of year.

And if you claimed that today’s Neo-Nazis had direct contact with the last stragglers of the original NSDAP, then there would be a comparison between that and what you were saying, especially if you tried to claim that they were all part of one organization like you’ve been claiming with Antifa.

Read your own articles you link, cretin.

Old Antifa was a part of the old.german kpd Modem antifas are AGGLOMERATIONS OF INDEPENDENT AND SEPARATE GROUPS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE KPD, COMMUNISM OR EACH OTHER,

Using the same old symbol and ideas does not make you the same entity, else modern US fascists would be the German nsdap.

(June 8, 2020 at 2:54 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 2:26 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 1.You cited  a Wikipedia article .

2. Fake claimed that article said X 

3. You denied this 

4. I pointed out the wikipedia article you cited says what Fake said it says and it does 

5. You are a liar

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And bunch of White house talking points

1. i cited a wiki article

2. i claimed the article said X

3. was challenged on it and i posted on post number 21 a cut and paste of what the article said, and then jumbo tron-ed the actual words for stupid MF-ers such as yourself who get lost in more than two sentences at a time. So you could see what i said was true.

4. posting my original claim again so you can see how twisted you mind is and how you changed what i said to fit your own narrative. (which is ok for you progressive types as things like documented truth mean nothing so long as you can still call people names)

4a the orginal quote: 

drich Wrote:....antifa? (which btw is a group who has been around since the nazi days of Germany as they were the communist german sect who has lots of power players and influence like Russia backing them)

douche bag Wrote:Wrong, completely wrong, like usual.
Wont even comment the rest of your impossibly stupid BS.

Well i'm going to leave what i wrote up. i did make a mistake or in your words lie. I quoted the wrong source. i started with this one and like i said have 3 available and must have given you the wrong tag for the quote i pulled. i apologize my mistake. that said the data is still correct. what more this wiki page ties the antifa movement to the original as well. so there is that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Un...te_note-45
my quote comes from the movement section

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(June 8, 2020 at 2:53 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Blah blah blah
Now you are trying to drown us in (more) BS

You were wrong and so are either very stupid or a liar..

i just quoted the wrong source. this one completely agrees. even goes father by linking antifa and neo nazis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Un...te_note-45

Sorry i have not TWISTED anything 

1. You cited the Wikiipedia

2. Fake Messiah made the claim about what it said 

3. You accused him of lying 

 4.The Wekipedia you linked said what Fake Messiah said it said 

5. Weither or not other wikipedia article says  something else weither it agrees with you or not is aside the point that he was telling the truth 

No narratives. No agenda. I was pointing that out and nothing more.

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(June 8, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 2:35 pm)Drich Wrote: it can be said the neo nazis , an organization who been around since the original national workers socialist group? being made up of the same ideals symbols ideologies and even some of the same people originally.

Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive and implement the ideology of Nazism. Neo-Nazis seek to employ their ideology to promote hatred and attack minorities, or in some cases to create a fascist state.[1][2] It is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries and international networks. It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, anti-Romanyism, antisemitism, anti-communism and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism

If this is not the same or the modern equivalent of then why is it still considered Nazism? neo-nazism is infact the legacy of the third reich. as the modern day seeks to model itself after what was. the same can be said with antifa. they took the ideology, they took the tactics, they are using riots politically and even do so under the antifa flag. they did this just like the neo Nazi did. to argue this is to willfully turn a blind eye to history and what is comming for you antifites. which i would remain silent just to hear what Guantanamo bay is like this time of year.

And if you claimed that today’s Neo-Nazis had direct contact with the last stragglers of the original NSDAP, then there would be a comparison between that and what you were saying, especially if you tried to claim that they were all part of one organization like you’ve been claiming with Antifa.

Also gotta love the ominous "the scary orange man is coming for you"

I didn’t even notice that through all the bizarre rationalizations for his claims about Antifa. It’s interesting to see the gleams of malignancy of someone who wants to see people who oppose Trump’s policies thrown into Gitmo shine through the facade of the useful idiot who can’t even cite Wikipedia properly.

(June 8, 2020 at 4:29 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I didn’t even notice that through all the bizarre rationalizations for his claims about Antifa. It’s interesting to see the gleams of malignancy of someone who wants to see people who oppose Trump’s policies thrown into Gitmo shine through the facade of the useful idiot who can’t even cite Wikipedia properly.

Which is hilarious for a guy who falsely brags he sources everything 

(June 8, 2020 at 6:46 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 4:29 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I didn’t even notice that through all the bizarre rationalizations for his claims about Antifa. It’s interesting to see the gleams of malignancy of someone who wants to see people who oppose Trump’s policies thrown into Gitmo shine through the facade of the useful idiot who can’t even cite Wikipedia properly.

Which is hilarious for a guy who falsely brags he sources everything 

The way he backpedals, he could win the Tour de France in reverse.

Boru

(June 8, 2020 at 7:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 6:46 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Which is hilarious for a guy who falsely brags he sources everything 

The way he backpedals, he could win the Tour de France in reverse.

Boru

True 

Now watch him pop up and be contrarian just to be contrarian

(June 5, 2020 at 4:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 5, 2020 at 3:51 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Do elaborate;  What does Drich's presence offer for you?

Nothing. But being a bigoted, narrow-minded, conspiracy loving, religiously fanatical, dishonest, woefully ignorant, abusive dung heap of a human being is not a banning offense.

If Drich is ever banned for anything other than breaking the forum Rules, I’ll resign as a moderator.

Boru

But isn't this topic about Drich claiming that protests are being organized by secret Soviet society dating back from Stalin and Germany in 1930s (instead of people simply being angry at police brutality) actually trolling?

I mean, if Drich opened here a topic claiming that riots were organized by aliens from Saturn, would it be also seen as Drich's "honest" opinion and people would waste their time trying to dissuade him as he throws personal insults at them; or would it have been closed, or maybe moved to conspiracy sub forum? And if so why is this different?

(June 8, 2020 at 2:57 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Using similar tactics 

Using the same name 

And not liking fascists 

Does not make you the same group, And no one to my knowledge gives a damn if Neo Nazi's are directly linnked too the third reich they are assholes even without it .

i disagree

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(June 8, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: More bull.

Modem Antifa is not around since Nazi days , dumbass.Its not even the same kinda "group", idiot. You are not even wrong.

Pointing to a different modern Antifa dies not make you less wrong, just demonstrates your ignorance

the ideology has been around that long. in fact it is the same that put Hitler in power is the point, these tactic are not of reasonable people these methods are not of duty honor integrity these are the works of evil men and women who prize their own righteousness before God.

(June 9, 2020 at 9:12 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 2:57 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Using similar tactics 

Using the same name 

And not liking fascists 

Does not make you the same group, And no one to my knowledge gives a damn if Neo Nazi's are directly linnked too the third reich they are assholes even without it .

i disagree

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(June 8, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: More bull.

Modem Antifa is not around since Nazi days , dumbass.Its not even the same kinda "group", idiot. You are not even wrong.

Pointing to a different modern Antifa dies not make you less wrong, just demonstrates your ignorance

the ideology has been around that long. in fact it is the same that put Hitler in power is the point, these tactic are not of reasonable people these methods are not of duty honor integrity these are the works of evil men and women who prize their own righteousness before God.

I don't care if you disagree