(June 18, 2020 at 8:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 18, 2020 at 8:31 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Atlas Shrugged is pure pain .How Rand  managed to make all her supposed "protagonists" totally unlikable assholes is a head scratcher .

If anyone is responsible for today's GOP and "libertarian" which is like arguing the economic difference between a fart sandwich and a shit sandwich, Ayn had a huge part in setting us on the road to Reagan and "Fuck you I got mine".

So...what book(s) do you consider ‘most awful’?

Boru

(June 18, 2020 at 8:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(June 18, 2020 at 7:28 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: For me the worst book ever The Camp of the Saints .By far the most racist book i have ever read .It's essentially white nationalist murder porn ,And scary enough it's used by modern nutcases even now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints

An overview of the awfulness 

But to list off it's themes

Non whites are incapable of higher thought .The only exceptions being non whites who are willing to side with the white nationalists and essentially be second class citizens

Immigrants are an all unthinking monsters

The "west" is white and Christian

Charity is evil

Colonization is good

Killing non white people is good

The military should commit atrocities




And a brave soul who actually reviewed it

I saw that video. It sounds totally fucking insane: this Indian guy who eats shit convinces a bunch of other Indians to hijack a cruise ship and drive it to France by showing off his deformed baby. Despite the fact that, according to my copy of The Great Big Book of Horrible Things, a cataloguing of the 100 most brutal wars and repressions in recorded history, France has been a participant in more of them than any other nation (managing to outdo long-running superpower and longest-consistently-inhabited-civilization-on-Earth China by one multicide, by the way), The French government decides to simply kowtow to them. This is despite the fact that A) France had just left a massive bloodbath in Algeria a bit over a decade prior, and B) if they’re really as hostile to living like they’re not in a scat porn movie as the book says they are, then military action might actually be justifiable.

Frankly, watching the video, the way the plot moves is almost like Robot Monster, where one gorilla with a diving helmet, who is apparently a Robot Monster from another planet called “Ro-Man,” kills the entire planet except for I think six or seven people with a fucking bubble machine. It’d be as “So Bad It’s Good” as RM if not the fact that this is pushing a violently racist agenda that people not only take seriously, but PEOPLE IN POLITICAL POWER actually take seriously.

I know it's pure madness and the fact it's taken seriously among people like a French presidential candidate( Marine Le Pen and might i add a current member of the European parliament ( Geert Wilder) is truly terrifying

Although I was kind of miffed that he didn't put an image for the Turd Eater. Either create a sense of unreliability by giving him a very Westernized and formal-looking Indian like this clip art:

or this:



Although there may be worse, whether it's The Turner Diaries (with more blatantly reprehensible ideology) or several novels that are objectively worse-written.

(June 18, 2020 at 8:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Although I was kind of miffed that he didn't put an image for the Turd Eater. Either create a sense of unreliability by giving him a very Westernized and formal-looking Indian like this clip art:

or this:

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This is Eat Dirt from the Boondocks. He's done nothing in the series besides beef with Gangstalicious over an award, get hit with a chair, and let out an incomprehensible diss towards him. He's not Indian and never eats dirt.

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Although there may be worse, whether it's The Turner Diaries (with more blatantly reprehensible ideology) or several novels that are objectively worse-written.

I have heard of it .Never read it though .

(June 18, 2020 at 7:59 pm)no one Wrote: The book of love.
I mean who wrote it? Do you ever wonder?

Oh I wonder, wonder whooooooo badooooo, Who wrote the book of love?

One of those books that might be considered worse than even Camp of the Saints: Norman Boutin's Empress Theresa.

Part 1 of a 5-part overview of the book:






The writing is shitty, with the opening paragraph being "" I’m Theresa, the younger daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Sullivan, and I hope it’s not bragging to say I was cute as heck at age ten.  Everybody in the family said so.  I was the princess in the Sullivan clan of Framingham, Massachusetts because besides being cute I was a whiz in school and had a good disposition.  All the relatives expected great things from me. "

And the things she does in the book are jaw-dropping, everything from wrecking the world economy and forcing any motor vehicle with the lawyer who's suing her to fail as soon as she enters it, to evacuating the State of Israel into a newly-created island shaped like the Star of David, to getting rid of winter, nighttime, and the North Pole, to getting to skip a grade because of the volume in her hair (I wish I was making that last one up.) It's a bit south of 500 pages of "tell, don't show" prose. Plus, he's so averse to criticism that he once responded to a bad review on Amazon by starting an argument in the comments that only ended when the thread reached its post limit. Said post limit: 10,000.

Also, there's a Naruto fanfic I once spent a summer dissecting called "Naruto Veangance Revelaitons." It's about 23 words shorter than the first Harry Potter book, has more sex scenes than sentences without a major spelling error, has a main character with a harem includes his mother, newborn daughter, and the Naruto character who's genetically identical to both of them (to say nothing of the scene where she mutilates her vagina and he fucks the wound), and here's how he describes himself:

Quote:  i a 13 years old and have just come to the town. i am 6" tall and hav dark blue hair dat looks like justin beibers hiar (i dont liek him tho FUCK HIM HE SUCKS ALL MODERN MUSIC FUCKING SUCKS). i am very muscula r and have 28' around biceps and hiuge pecx and then i also have a huge dick its almost 2 fet long and realy fat plus i cum a lot ok)

Add to it his being profoundly against: Fans of Harry Potter, Western Animation, and modern music; religious people (especially Christians); women who aren't totally submissive; gay males (he publicly disembowels a guy for admiring his penis); fat people; capitalists; the mentally ill; his stepfamily; and... Croats, and you get something that would probably be the worst novel ever written if it was actually published as one.

(June 18, 2020 at 9:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: One of those books that might be considered worse than even Camp of the Saints: Norman Boutin's Empress Theresa.

Part 1 of a 5-part overview of the book:






The writing is shitty, with the opening paragraph being "" I’m Theresa, the younger daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Sullivan, and I hope it’s not bragging to say I was cute as heck at age ten.  Everybody in the family said so.  I was the princess in the Sullivan clan of Framingham, Massachusetts because besides being cute I was a whiz in school and had a good disposition.  All the relatives expected great things from me. "

And the things she does in the book are jaw-dropping, everything from wrecking the world economy and forcing any motor vehicle with the lawyer who's suing her to fail as soon as she enters it, to evacuating the State of Israel into a newly-created island shaped like the Star of David, to getting rid of winter, nighttime, and the North Pole, to getting to skip a grade because of the volume in her hair (I wish I was making that last one up.) It's a bit south of 500 pages of "tell, don't show" prose. Plus, he's so averse to criticism that he once responded to a bad review on Amazon by starting an argument in the comments that only ended when the thread reached its post limit. Said post limit: 10,000.

Also, there's a Naruto fanfic I once spent a summer dissecting called "Naruto Veangance Revelaitons." It's about 23 words shorter than the first Harry Potter book, has more sex scenes than sentences without a major spelling error, has a main character with a harem includes his mother, newborn daughter, and the Naruto character who's genetically identical to both of them (to say nothing of the scene where she mutilates her vagina and he fucks the wound), and here's how he describes himself:

Quote:  i a 13 years old and have just come to the town. i am 6" tall and hav dark blue hair dat looks like justin beibers hiar (i dont liek him tho FUCK HIM HE SUCKS ALL MODERN MUSIC FUCKING SUCKS). i am very muscula r and have 28' around biceps and hiuge pecx and then i also have a huge dick its almost 2 fet long and realy fat plus i cum a lot ok)

Add to it his being profoundly against: Fans of Harry Potter, Western Animation, and modern music; religious people (especially Christians); women who aren't totally submissive; gay males (he publicly disembowels a guy for admiring his penis); fat people; capitalists; the mentally ill; his stepfamily; and... Croats, and you get something that would probably be the worst novel ever written if it was actually published as one.

Good god that is awful .I think that might be worst then  Camp of the Saints

On an afterthought, while researching the novel, I found out that Jean Raspail died a few years ago.

And given that he was 94 years old (and having thus lived a full life), and died “peacefully surrounded by his family”, according to his son, and wrote a notoriously racist novel that's been cited by people working with Trump, I feel safe in using this clip:

(June 18, 2020 at 7:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: War and Peace.  The second half.

The war bits were good, but the peace bits were so boring. I lost count the princes and princesses at various parties that I couldn't care less about.