(September 1, 2020 at 2:18 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(September 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Trump blatantly sides with a man who kills black protesters.

And you act indignant that the city of the town where this takes place urges him to reconsider his visit there.

So you want to limit where people who disagree with you are allowed to travel?


And - you have a riled up bunch claiming "Trump is doing nothing!" - and don't want him to show up...

Pick one.

Do I want to limit the freedom of movement of people I disagree with? No, I just think that if a fire is raging, maybe you make sure people don’t throw gasoline on the fire. You said it in the OP: people are rioting, a guy killed two men and made a bullshit self-defense claim, and the president is going along with it. The fuck do you think he’s coming to Kenosha for? The Mars Cheese Castle? Lighting up at the Bong State Recreation Area? And if he’s just going there for shit like that, I’m okay with that. The fact remains that he’s not just coming there for a little trip. This is a campaign stop in a volatile area, where he’s made his opinions clear, and if he somehow managed to pull a 180 and do something like this:



Frankly, I’d sooner expect it to rain frogs. To be fair, that has happened far more times than Trump actually giving a thoughtful response to racial violence.

And the contradiction you cite is only a contradiction if you think there’s a possibility he’s actually going to help the situation. They’re protesting against systemic racism and Trump has made abundantly clear that he’s not only siding against them, but with white nationalist violence.

He's white so we'll call him a militia member. But if he had been black, we'd call him a gang member. And if he were Muslim, we'd call him a terrorist.

(September 1, 2020 at 3:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(September 1, 2020 at 2:18 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: So you want to limit where people who disagree with you are allowed to travel?


And - you have a riled up bunch claiming "Trump is doing nothing!" - and don't want him to show up...

Pick one.

Do I want to limit the freedom of movement of people I disagree with? No, I just think that if a fire is raging, maybe you make sure people don’t throw gasoline on the fire. You said it in the OP: people are rioting, a guy killed two men and made a bullshit self-defense claim, and the president is going along with it. The fuck do you think he’s coming to Kenosha for? The Mars Cheese Castle? Lighting up at the Bong State Recreation Area? And if he’s just going there for shit like that, I’m okay with that. The fact remains that he’s not just coming there for a little trip. This is a campaign stop in a volatile area, where he’s made his opinions clear, and if he somehow managed to pull a 180 and do something like this:



Frankly, I’d sooner expect it to rain frogs. To be fair, that has happened far more times than Trump actually giving a thoughtful response to racial violence.

And the contradiction you cite is only a contradiction if you think there’s a possibility he’s actually going to help the situation. They’re protesting against systemic racism and Trump has made abundantly clear that he’s not only siding against them, but with white nationalist violence.

I do doubt he will help.

The left wouldn't allow it if he tried.


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Can't let him do something good - somebody might vote for him!

Heaven forfend that elected officials have to contend with other elected officials as to what they can and can't do for their constituency. You're making excuses for him not doing the job - but he is doing the job. This is what he thinks the job is - and..as we've agreed, it's shit.

His job, his shit. No one else's shit excuses his shit, no one else's makes his happen.

If the left was capable of stopping him from helping, we wouldn't have concentration camps - that's him helping. You're making the argument for a stronger left. Gratz.

(September 1, 2020 at 3:18 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:

(September 1, 2020 at 3:15 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Wouldn't it be easier and more humane just to get the whackadoodle on the right meds?

There are no meds for dementia. As a person who has two parents with dementia I recognize the signs.

No... I don't think he's got dementia... That isn't anyone's fault.

He's an asshole - and he works at it....


Thorazine might be an improvement.

He's an asshole, dementia doesn't excuse it, and you know he's not going there to help anyone. What are you bitching about, again?

trump is king of scumbags!

I think we all agree that Trump is the dumbest president? Did he really say out loud that we could look into injecting people with disinfectant?
If he's that dumb, why does he have ANY followers at all

(September 1, 2020 at 2:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(September 1, 2020 at 1:27 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: One of the major bits of the clusterfuck that is Kenosha...

This kid is claiming self defense -after killing a couple people and oddly enough President Trump seems to be going along with that.

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My thoughts -

I have carried a concealed pistol - almost every day - for going on 20 years. I have not had an incident to date.

A big part of that is because I avoid areas where trouble might be likely to happen.

Like riots.

The kid is lucky I won't be on his jury - because I would likely go along with the prosecutor on this one. He could have stayed home and not been part of the problem. And - he should not have dragged a loaded gun into a riot situation. Trained professionals only do that as a last resort.

Were I the prosecutor - I would also go after whoever got him his rifle - because a 17 year old cannot legally purchase one.

He brought the fight to the crowd.

If the crowd had brought the fight to him - it would be a different story.

"A big part of that is that I avoid areas where trouble might be likely to Happen"

YOUR WORDS NOT MINE.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

But the trouble wasn't created by the people he shot, the trouble was created by his own fucking narcissism and fragile ego.

3 people wouldn't have been shot, and two people wouldn't be dead if Trump hadn't fucking told a teen that he had the right to play Dirty Harry.

Nice to see that you’re still arguing with people you agree with, Brian.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Boru

(September 1, 2020 at 5:27 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think we all agree that Trump is the dumbest president? Did he really say out loud that we could look into injecting people with disinfectant?
If he's that dumb, why does he have ANY followers at all

It's a cult. There is no other explanation. Those of us here who see him for what he is aren't going to understand the other side, any more than we understand willfully ignorant young-earth xtians.