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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 4:30 am
(September 1, 2020 at 11:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (September 1, 2020 at 11:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m getting the impression that he either 1) doesn’t want Islamist terrorism mentioned at all, or 2) he wants everyone to discuss Western terrorism ONLY as a method of excusing the Islamist variety.
I formally decline to participate in such nonsense, and will continue with my already stated position that ALL terrorists are bad guys.
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The topic is not about Islamic terrorism, but about non-Muslim terrorism influenced by severe Islamophobia. Thus mentioning anything else is just blowing dust in the reader's eyes so they look away.
1 far-right non-Muslim terrorist killed 50 people, including children -intentionally-:
Quote: Wrote: Wrote:Before the hearing, Abdul Aziz Wahabzadah, who fought off Tarrant at the Linwood Islamic Center, said in a telephone interview that it was important for him to be in court on Monday to see the attacker whom he managed to frighten away, saving lives in the process.
“He came and killed all the innocent women and children with a gun, but when his turn came [for a beating], he ran away like a coward,” Wahabzadah said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/brenton-tarrant-sentence-new-zealand-mosque-attack-christchurch/2020/08/23/abd51832-e10c-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html Quote: Wrote: Wrote:St. John Ambulance sent 20 ambulances and other vehicles to the mosques.[217] Most of the wounded were taken to Christchurch Hospital. Forty-eight people with gunshot wounds, including young children, were treated at the hospital,[218][219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchur..._shootings
Looking at a child in the eyes then shoot them is what I mean.
Then you go back in history and look at what non-Muslims did to Africans enslaving them, then you look how America was emptied from all its natives to understand what I mean by the poor comparison between Islamic terrorism and non-Muslim terrorism.
Now; back to the OP.
Glad to see my earlier assessment of your motives was correct.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 8:09 am
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(September 2, 2020 at 4:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Glad to see my earlier assessment of your motives was correct.
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You can read the topic's title to know what it's about; again it's about "A white non-Muslim terrorist who commit his crime due to Islamophobia",it's not a topic about "Islamic terrorism".
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 8:25 am
(September 2, 2020 at 8:09 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 4:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Glad to see my earlier assessment of your motives was correct.
Boru
You can read the topic's title to know what it's about; again it's about "A white non-Muslim terrorist who commit his crime due to Islamophobia",it's not a topic about "Islamic terrorism".
Thank you.
You're using white, non-Muslim terror to excuse Islamist terrorism, so it's really all the same topic. It's fairly easy to read between your lines.
And why is it you only go spare about off-topic posts in threads YOU start?
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 11:22 am
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(September 2, 2020 at 8:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 8:09 am)WinterHold Wrote: You can read the topic's title to know what it's about; again it's about "A white non-Muslim terrorist who commit his crime due to Islamophobia",it's not a topic about "Islamic terrorism".
Thank you.
You're using white, non-Muslim terror to excuse Islamist terrorism, so it's really all the same topic. It's fairly easy to read between your lines.
And why is it you only go spare about off-topic posts in threads YOU start?
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You can read the topic's title to know what it's about; again it's about "A white non-Muslim terrorist who commit his crime due to Islamophobia",it's not a topic about "Islamic terrorism".
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 12:22 pm
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Terrorism is terrorism, as we've been discussing. Domestic terrorists and fto are equal in this regard. FWIW, everyone's ftos are somebody else's domestics.
Our islamic terrorists, for example, are your christchurch mosque shooters. Our domestics don't hop on a plane quit as often as yours, but I suspect that it's only a matter of time until we reach parity.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 12:23 pm
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(September 2, 2020 at 11:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 2, 2020 at 8:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You're using white, non-Muslim terror to excuse Islamist terrorism, so it's really all the same topic. It's fairly easy to read between your lines.
And why is it you only go spare about off-topic posts in threads YOU start?
Boru
You can read the topic's title to know what it's about; again it's about "A white non-Muslim terrorist who commit his crime due to Islamophobia",it's not a topic about "Islamic terrorism".
Thank you.
Islamist terrorism is implicit in the thread title. The fact that you keep going tee-total batshit over people expanding the topic simply adds weight to what I’ve said three times now: You’re using non-Islamist terrorism as a method for getting people to stop talking about Islamist terrorism. This makes you a coward unable to own up to the horrid things done in the name of your faith.
You’re welcome.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 12:27 pm
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Alot of muslims aren't islamists, so they can claim that it isn't done in the name of their faith.
Winter can't, because he is an islamist, but he still has that residual feeling above from when he wasn't. He's a good boy who does what he's told and doesn't stand out. When he hears islamists speak, he perceives it to be a positive messaging campaign, and since he believes that he's a good person (and, likely, is) he doesn't believe that he could possibly be any of the other things he is
-because that would be bad.
It's a tight knot. Been known to explode when it's unraveled. White, black, brown, islamic, christian, western or eastern, doesn't matter.
Here's a question for you, Winter - about islamaphobic white supremacists who commit acts of terror. Have you ever looked into their specified fears and anxieties? Notice anything familiar?
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 12:30 pm
(September 2, 2020 at 12:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Alot of muslims aren't islamists, so they can claim that it isn't done in the name of their faith.
Winter can't, because he is an islamist, but he still has that residual feeling above from when he wasn't. He's a good boy who does what he's told and doesn't stand out.
Agreed. The terrorists are the ones claiming it is done in the name of their faith, ie, in their own peculiar interpretation of Islam.
To be fair, there are plenty of imams and work-a-day Muslims who denounce the terror tactics of the fanatics.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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Terrorism is a free rider when it comes to monotheistic faith. It's always been frowned on, officially, but the faithful can't figure out how to produce faith without producing terrorists. Hell of a bind.
It's almost as if believing that the lord of the universe is a singular human-alike figure with a shitlist does something to human psychology...or something.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
September 2, 2020 at 1:21 pm
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(September 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Terrorism is a free rider when it comes to monotheistic faith. It's always been frowned on, officially, but the faithful can't figure out how to produce faith without producing terrorists. Hell of a bind.
It's almost as if believing that the lord of the universe is a singular human-alike figure with a shitlist does something to human psychology...or something.
That’s a very good observation. It can’t be coincidence that the least dogmatic‘religions’ rarely (if every) produce terrorists.
When was the last time you heard about Unitarians bombing a school, or Wiccans hijacking a plane?
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