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February 14, 2021 at 1:07 pm
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(February 14, 2021 at 9:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 4:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, the 'odds' are just the opposite. While political affiliation doesn't de jure prevent someone sitting on a jury, it absolutely de facto does. The odds of finding a Trump-sympathizing juror in DC are about 18 to 1 against.
Of course, his lawyers could argue that Trump can't get a fair trial in DC, but this would put them in the charmingly embarrassing position of having to admit that the DC vote was valid.
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How do you figure that?
It's like a black man trying to get a fair trial in Klan country.....
How does that "admit the vote is valid"?
Prejudice against the defendant by the jury pool is exactly why they have change of venue....
I should have clearer - by ‘DC’ vote, I meant the presidential election (my badski). Almost 94% of DC voters went for Biden, which is going to make it all but impossible to get a Trump sympathizer on a DC jury. Given that, his defense lawyers could make a case for a change of venue.
But Trump and his acolytes claimed and continue to claim the election was rigged - Trump went so far as to claim, ‘I won every state’ (for electoral college purposes, DC is considered a state). If his lawyers stick to that claim, they’ve got no grounds for change of venue, since they can’t claim overwhelming opposition to Trump. If they ask for change of venue because they claim that they can’t seat an impartial jury, it’s a tacit admission that the election WASN’T rigged, which is going to make their client very unhappy.
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February 14, 2021 at 1:10 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 9:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: If Charles Manson were president and today's GOP were the Jurors, Manson would have never spent a day in prison.
Manson tried to claim the same thing Trump did, "You don't have my fingerprints at the scene" " I never killed anyone".
The worst part is that we have video proving incitement. Manson spent his life in prison, with no video, no tweets.
A better analogy would refusing to convict a physician of murder because he retired from medical practice after he deliberately killed twelve people just for kicks.
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February 14, 2021 at 1:11 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 9:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: If Charles Manson were president and today's GOP were the Jurors, Manson would have never spent a day in prison.
Manson tried to claim the same thing Trump did, "You don't have my fingerprints at the scene" " I never killed anyone".
The worst part is that we have video proving incitement. Manson spent his life in prison, with no video, no tweets.
You are a dipshit of the highest order.
Your inane comparisons are useless.
If you think Trump was merely being metaphorical when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue long ago when he was running, and brag about getting away with it, you are kidding yourself.. He dodged two impeachments, that if were inane non famous accusations, those people would be held without bail and damned sure likely to be convicted.
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February 14, 2021 at 1:15 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You are a dipshit of the highest order.
Your inane comparisons are useless.
If you think Trump was merely being metaphorical when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue long ago when he was running, and brag about getting away with it, you are kidding yourself.. He dodged two impeachments, that if were inane non famous accusations, those people would be held without bail and damned sure likely to be convicted.
She didn’t say anything of the sort. She was pointing out that comparing Trump’s trial to Manson’s makes no sense.
Read more slowly.
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February 14, 2021 at 1:21 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 1:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If you think Trump was merely being metaphorical when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue long ago when he was running, and brag about getting away with it, you are kidding yourself.. He dodged two impeachments, that if were inane non famous accusations, those people would be held without bail and damned sure likely to be convicted.
She didn’t say anything of the sort. She was pointing out that comparing Trump’s trial to Manson’s makes no sense.
Read more slowly.
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Holy crap. This is the same bullshit I get when I rightfully compare him to Hitler.
It isn't the short term I am arguing, it is his tactics and those who back him up and let him get away with it.
It is true Trump has not killed 6 million Jews. It is true Trump has not killed famous Hollywood actors. But he has damned sure incited assholes to act on his behalf.
If Trump were not famous, he'd still be the fuckface who'd incite a friend or neighbor to " fix things". That is what Manson did, that is what Hitler did.
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February 14, 2021 at 1:47 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 1:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 1:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: She didn’t say anything of the sort. She was pointing out that comparing Trump’s trial to Manson’s makes no sense.
Read more slowly.
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Holy crap. This is the same bullshit I get when I rightfully compare him to Hitler.
It isn't the short term I am arguing, it is his tactics and those who back him up and let him get away with it.
It is true Trump has not killed 6 million Jews. It is true Trump has not killed famous Hollywood actors. But he has damned sure incited assholes to act on his behalf.
If Trump were not famous, he'd still be the fuckface who'd incite a friend or neighbor to " fix things". That is what Manson did, that is what Hitler did.
Please go elsewhere with your hysterical rantings.
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February 14, 2021 at 3:59 pm
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(February 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 9:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: If Charles Manson were president and today's GOP were the Jurors, Manson would have never spent a day in prison.
Manson tried to claim the same thing Trump did, "You don't have my fingerprints at the scene" " I never killed anyone".
The worst part is that we have video proving incitement. Manson spent his life in prison, with no video, no tweets.
You are a dipshit of the highest order.
Your inane comparisons are useless.
Come on, Brian's comparison of Trump to Mansion is corny by now. Lots of people made that exact comparison. Take Stephen Colbert who made that comparison back in January.
See in this video between 3:40 - 4:40
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February 14, 2021 at 4:11 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (February 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You are a dipshit of the highest order.
Your inane comparisons are useless.
Come on, Brian's comparison of Trump to Mansion is corny by now. Lots of people made that exact comparison. Take Stephen Colbert who made that comparison back in January.
See in this video between 3:40 - 4:40
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February 14, 2021 at 4:20 pm
That two dipshits made the same comparison doesn't make it sensible or rational.
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February 14, 2021 at 4:49 pm
(February 14, 2021 at 4:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: That two dipshits made the same comparison doesn't make it sensible or rational.
Yup. Stephen Colbert’s silly analogy is not a vindication of Brian’s.
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