If you can find me Omar is an Anti-Semite in the dictionary I would be  much obliged 

Sorry, the fact that multiple credible sources give a clear unanimous definition of a word and that you think your "feelings and "opinions " trump that, And that your mindless ravings about "The Establishment " and telling " The Sheeple to  "Wake  Up" isn't going to cut it as a refutation or disguise your butthurt

The definition of an Alt-Right is 

Quote:: a right-wing, primarily online political movement or grouping based in the U.S. whose members reject mainstream conservative politics and espouse extremist beliefs and policies typically centered on ideas of white nationalism

Cry harder 

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It must be difficult to come to terms with having enthusiastically adopted white separatist ideology by accident. Went out for smokes, came back with a bad case of mindless racism. Get well soon bud.

I'm not alt-right lol. That's funny.

I support gun rights, so I'm conservative on that issue. I support free speech, which used to be a liberal position. I'm against racism, which is supposed to be a liberal position, or at least it used to be, until people started getting woke. I am in favour of social justice, a national healthcare system, against drug laws, in favour of social safety nets, gays, abortion, and even post birth abortion if the child is severely mentally challenged or there's some other reason the mother and doctor conclude that it would be better off dead.

Me choosing not to follow the religion of wokeness or refusing to live in an echo chamber and actually listening to all sides does not make me alt-right. Me calling someone out for trying to cover up for a child cager like Biden by trying to insinuate that he deserves a pat on the back for allowing a black into the Whitehouse for a photo op while he cages children does not make me an alt-righter. TGN, you were one of the few posters calling out Biden for the child caging and opening up more child caging facilities. Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

(June 23, 2021 at 8:51 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Me calling someone out for trying to cover up for a child cager like Biden by trying to insinuate that he deserves a pat on the back for allowing a black into the Whitehouse for a photo op while he cages children does not make me an alt-righter. TGN, you were one of the few posters calling out Biden for the child caging and opening up more child caging facilities. Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

Quote:Child migrants: Massive drop in children held by border officials

The number of children being held in by US Customs and Border Protection (CPB) has dropped 88% between late March and late April, according to government officials.

The decrease comes as a task force set up by President Joe Biden begins to reunite families that were separated under his predecessor Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy.

Child migrants start off in CPB custody before being transferred to health officials in the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR). Legally, the transfer must happen in 72 hours, but back in March some 5,000 children children were found to have exceeded that legal stay.

ORR facilities are generally better equipped to take children. The shelters feature play areas, classrooms and counselling services. The organisation is also tasked with finding families or homes where the children will remain until their immigration claim is heard by the courts.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56405009

So I just looked up alt right on youtube to see what the top results would be, and it's mostly bringing up stuff about Richard Spencer and Charlottesville. Obviously I'm not defending those types of people.

Alt right is not one thing. There are many different types of alt right. You have someone like Richard Spencer, who is openly and proudly racist, and then you have the alt-righters that I was thinking of, more of the Steven Crowder, Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson types. I haven't seen any of these people spew anti-black views, other than when some of them support the drug war. If I saw it, I'd call it out, but I don't see it. Of course, most woke people will equate having issues with BLM or making jokes as making a person just as bad as someone like Richard Spencer, and that's what makes wokeism a religion just like any other.

All alt right means to me is that a person has views that are right wing, but they have some significant differences with establishment republicans. To be alternative to the mainstream right wing doesn't entail that you must be a white separatist or march around chanting that Jews will not replace you, but if being alt right now means that you must go around marching with tiki torches, what do we now call people like Gavin McInnes and Steven Crowder since they apparently can no longer be called alt right? What word should I use for them?

(June 23, 2021 at 8:51 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I'm not alt-right lol. That's funny.

I support gun rights, so I'm conservative on that issue. I support free speech, which used to be a liberal position. I'm against racism, which is supposed to be a liberal position, or at least it used to be, until people started getting woke. I am in favour of social justice, a national healthcare system, against drug laws, in favour of social safety nets, gays, abortion, and even post birth abortion if the child is severely mentally challenged or there's some other reason the mother and doctor conclude that it would be better off dead.

Me choosing not to follow the religion of wokeness or refusing to live in an echo chamber and actually listening to all sides does not make me alt-right. Me calling someone out for trying to cover up for a child cager like Biden by trying to insinuate that he deserves a pat on the back for allowing a black into the Whitehouse for a photo op while he cages children  does not make me an alt-righter. TGN, you were one of the few posters calling out Biden for the child caging and opening up more child caging facilities. Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

Bold mine - sort of goes against your personal title on this forum...doncha think?

(June 23, 2021 at 11:30 am)arewethereyet Wrote:

(June 23, 2021 at 8:51 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I'm not alt-right lol. That's funny.

I support gun rights, so I'm conservative on that issue. I support free speech, which used to be a liberal position. I'm against racism, which is supposed to be a liberal position, or at least it used to be, until people started getting woke. I am in favour of social justice, a national healthcare system, against drug laws, in favour of social safety nets, gays, abortion, and even post birth abortion if the child is severely mentally challenged or there's some other reason the mother and doctor conclude that it would be better off dead.

Me choosing not to follow the religion of wokeness or refusing to live in an echo chamber and actually listening to all sides does not make me alt-right. Me calling someone out for trying to cover up for a child cager like Biden by trying to insinuate that he deserves a pat on the back for allowing a black into the Whitehouse for a photo op while he cages children  does not make me an alt-righter. TGN, you were one of the few posters calling out Biden for the child caging and opening up more child caging facilities. Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

Bold mine - sort of goes against your personal title on this forum...doncha think?

Nope, and I'm pretty sure if you actually thought I was calling myself proudly racist in my title that you would have banned me by now since I'm guessing that would be against the rules. Why haven't you? You call me a troll, but trolling is against forum rules and you haven't once warned me for it, because you know you're talking out of your ass.

I'm against the religion of social justice AKA wokeism. I am very much in support of social justice.

(June 23, 2021 at 2:11 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(June 23, 2021 at 11:30 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Bold mine - sort of goes against your personal title on this forum...doncha think?

Nope, and I'm pretty sure if you actually thought I was calling myself proudly racist in my title that you would have banned me by now since I'm guessing that would be against the rules. Why haven't you? You call me a troll, but trolling is against forum rules and you haven't once warned me for it, because you know you're talking out of your ass.

I'm against the religion of social justice AKA wokeism. I am very much in support of social justice.

You have been warned for trolling...about two months ago.  Thanks for playing though.

(June 23, 2021 at 11:02 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So I just looked up alt right on youtube to see what the top results would be, and it's mostly bringing up stuff about Richard Spencer and Charlottesville. Obviously I'm not defending those types of people.

Merely spouting and defending their ideology and honor as a movement, we know.

Quote:Alt right is not one thing. There are many different types of alt right. You have someone like Richard Spencer, who is openly and proudly racist, and then you have the alt-righters that I was thinking of, more of the Steven Crowder, Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson types. I haven't seen any of these people spew anti-black views, other than when some of them support the drug war. If I saw it, I'd call it out, but I don't see it. Of course, most woke people will equate having issues with BLM or making jokes as making a person just as bad as someone like Richard Spencer, and that's what makes wokeism a religion just like any other.

All alt right means to me is that a person has views that are right wing, but they have some significant differences with establishment republicans. To be alternative to the mainstream right wing doesn't entail that you must be a white separatist or march around chanting that Jews will not replace you, but if being alt right now means that you must go around marching with tiki torches, what do we now call people like Gavin McInnes and Steven Crowder since they apparently can no longer be called alt right? What word should I use for them?

Sounds like you got soft sold. Anywho, the alt right ate the mainstreams lunch. That's why they're groveling at the foot of the troll king and lurching towards open fascism as we speak. The alt right rallies around the politics of white grievance. That's the tie that binds. Or, as you would put it, anti wokeness.

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(June 23, 2021 at 8:51 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

As you noted in the question..I'm against kiddie koncentration kamps, not any particular candidate or politician officiating over them.  Shouldn't even be an option.  We can agree here and disagree over the articles of white grievance, which we do..explicitly, and it's those views, that disagreement, that identifies you as a vocal disseminator of alt right talking points.

(June 23, 2021 at 2:18 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(June 23, 2021 at 11:02 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So I just looked up alt right on youtube to see what the top results would be, and it's mostly bringing up stuff about Richard Spencer and Charlottesville. Obviously I'm not defending those types of people.

Merely spouting and defending their ideology and honor as a movement, we know.

Quote:Alt right is not one thing. There are many different types of alt right. You have someone like Richard Spencer, who is openly and proudly racist, and then you have the alt-righters that I was thinking of, more of the Steven Crowder, Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson types. I haven't seen any of these people spew anti-black views, other than when some of them support the drug war. If I saw it, I'd call it out, but I don't see it. Of course, most woke people will equate having issues with BLM or making jokes as making a person just as bad as someone like Richard Spencer, and that's what makes wokeism a religion just like any other.

All alt right means to me is that a person has views that are right wing, but they have some significant differences with establishment republicans. To be alternative to the mainstream right wing doesn't entail that you must be a white separatist or march around chanting that Jews will not replace you, but if being alt right now means that you must go around marching with tiki torches, what do we now call people like Gavin McInnes and Steven Crowder since they apparently can no longer be called alt right? What word should I use for them?

Sounds like you got soft sold.  Anywho, the alt right ate the mainstreams lunch.  That's why they're groveling at the foot of the troll king and lurching towards open fascism as we speak.  The alt right rallies around the politics of white grievance.  That's the tie that binds.  Or, as you would put it, anti wokeness.

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(June 23, 2021 at 8:51 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  Do you not find it gross that posters are posting pictures of black children with dead fathers and using that to prop up the child cager running, as they were called by AOC, concentration camps?

As you noted in the question..I'm against kiddie koncentration kamps, not any particular candidate or politician officiating over them.  Shouldn't even be an option.  We can agree here and disagree over the articles of white grievance, which we do..explicitly, and it's those views, that disagreement, that identifies you as a vocal disseminator of alt right talking points.

Immigration is not going to stop because some separatists want it to. There's no chance their wishes come to pass. They lost a long time ago. Game over. They are a terrorist threat to an extent but they're not exactly slaughtering people left and right and leaving mountains of bodies.

59 percent of Americans support free speech. https://www.cato.org/survey-reports/stat...a#overview Are you implying that 59 percent of Americans are pushing alt-right talking points because they support free speech? The alt-right doesn't own the concept of free speech. The world is going crazy at this moment in time though, and even the ACLU is abandoning free speech when they used to defend the Klan having the right to do rallies like real liberals would.

71 percent of Americans believe that political correctness has done more to silence important discussions our society needs to have. https://www.cato.org/survey-reports/stat...ce-america Are these 71 percent of Americans all pushing alt-right talking points because they take issue with PC/ woke culture?

I'm not defending the honour of these people because I agree with everything they say. I just think it makes no sense at all to try to group Richard Spencer in with Jordan Peterson and act like they are the same thing when it's apples and oranges. If I thought Jordan Peterson was a white separatist, I wouldn't be defending him as a person. You don't see me defending Richard Spencer.