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**Autumnlicious** · November 10, 2011 at 4:08 am

But hey, global warming is a fraud, right? Dodgy

REF: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...sfeed=true

KichigaiNeko · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2011 at 4:19 am by KichigaiNeko.)

If you think for one minute that taxing the planetary populace and BUYING CARBON CREDITS is going to stop Climate Change or make one iota of difference to the global warming from pollution then I feel that you are not looking at the whole issue properly.

Climate change has been "going to happen within the next 20 years" for the past 50 that I am aware of. It is just alarmist media BS and detracts from the real Climate science that plebs like you and me never get to hear about...

I have a sneaking suspicion that this is just "Doomsday religious" propaganda using some science and twisting into bad science.

**Autumnlicious** · November 10, 2011 at 4:34 am

I was under the impression that actual enforced regulatory limits on emissions would be the only effective protocol for curbing emissions to a lower rate.

KichigaiNeko · November 10, 2011 at 4:43 am

(November 10, 2011 at 4:34 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I was under the impression that actual enforced regulatory limits on emissions would be the only effective protocol for curbing emissions to a lower rate.

Hadn't worked in 50 years so why should it start now??

Just another IMF grab bag of idiocy perpetrated by governments I am thinking.

Germany has done the "enforced limits on Pollution" and still the cry is "Global Warming!" "Climate Change!" And yet every Oil company on the planet has purchased "Carbon Credits" aka great swathes of the Amazon River Basin and STILL we get this nonsense?? Media hype amigo.

I am sorry to see real science being turned into the 'New Environmental Religion'. "If you don't believe the Doomsayers you are a Global Warming Denier (heretic)!"

Just another polarising piece of propaganda to further fill the money pouches of the charlatans.

I agree the we (as a planet) SHOULD clean up our mess! But I do not see how shifting the blame around and "Buying our way out of it" is going to be any help. And what of the Pacific Garbage Dump?? Hmmm??

~~ib.me.ub~~ · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2011 at 7:24 am by ib.me.ub.)

Money talks and bullshit walks. It all over, ya may as well enjoy it.

**thesummerqueen** · November 10, 2011 at 7:23 am

Well, the problem would seem to me Kichi that we're not adjusting in ways that count. Buying credits does dick all. Fitting the vast majority of homes up with alternative energy sources, buying on a local level to reduce pollution from world-wide transportation, and so on just doesn't happen.

KichigaiNeko · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2011 at 7:50 am by KichigaiNeko.)

(November 10, 2011 at 7:23 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Well, the problem would seem to me Kichi that we're not adjusting in ways that count. Buying credits does dick all. Fitting the vast majority of homes up with alternative energy sources, buying on a local level to reduce pollution from world-wide transportation, and so on just doesn't happen.

You should see my suburb SQ...wall to wall solar panels feeding back into the grid.

It does happen but there is little incentive to make it happen and when there is it is only for a very short time Angry

Govts are more geared to taxing the populace IMHO than making lasting beneficial policy. As such they THEN can give themselves a payrise of $500,000...I wonder where THAT money came from in a "frugal, responsible budget" ?

frankiej · November 10, 2011 at 8:12 am

Climates change...No biggie.

**The Grand Nudger**

This is what kills me, we're presented with a problem. Rather than directly addressing this problem an entire industry crops up (replete with as much fraud as any other) that does fuck all to deal with the problem. We have engineers that can deal with the Apollo 13 incident, but we can't come up with a way to stop shitting where we eat? I call BS on the human race on this issue..lol. We could do something, we don't want to. I'm not a climate doomsayer, obviously, but I don't see why we have to play a game of brinksmanship with the place we call home.

frankiej · November 10, 2011 at 10:53 am

I don't see it as a problem.

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