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[Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
#91
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 9:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You know; nobody has the right to "seize" the Quran for themselves; saying that "only their party/their institution" has the right to speak in its name. It's a free for all to discuss the verses of the Quran.

This idea is not yet realized, even though it's stated explicitly in the Quran itself:

Unless you don't like what they post, then they're a sock or a troll. 
Un huh. Got it.

(July 29, 2021 at 6:39 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Pick a verse and discuss it, if you're just going to copypasta some links, I'll copypasta the responses. Sounds fair to me.

You specifically said things that were incorrect about what I posted. 
If I need any advice from you about what to post, I'll be sure and ask. 
Did ANYONE here post historical facts for Winterhold until I did ?

Quote:I'm sorry but is it difficult for you to understand that a Muslim should really really know how to pray ? The person who doesn't believe in hadiths still believes in the utility of prayer, which brings them back to the hadiths. It really isn't difficult.

I could care less how a Muslim prays. I see you're a one trick pony. Not sure what planet you live on, I said nothing about prayer ... any kind of prayer ... just as you made up the context of your former fake comment, so you continue. Are you on drugs ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn
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#92
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 7:18 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 31, 2021 at 2:18 am)WinterHold Wrote: Other geographic places got rid of religion yet to invent new "doctrines" which are very racist, deadly and tyrannical in nature.
Take Asia's "Mao", or the European imperialist white nationalists. 

Your point, again.? your problem is the vampire called "mankind", money, brains, etcetera.
My religion told me that mankind is under constant "agitation" by an extraterrestrial being made out of fire called "Satan". Just like wild beasts a large group listens to the agitation and wrecks havoc on the face of this planet.

So it's a never ending battle against this being and whoever listens to him, until judgement day comes -according to my faith of course-.


But I also bring new stuff to the table, I mention them in my "[Quranic Reflection]" topics. I read the book and try my best to see how it fairs with science: guess what: it fairs perfectly.

So the answer to my question is "Yes".

You plan to continue spamming the forum.  

Read the rules...there isn't a loophole that says you can spam the forum so long as you bring new stuff to the table.

It's funny and ironic that you consider "writing topics" in a forum made for "writing topics" as spamming ><
The irony -_-

Or is it the Quran that is making you angry? you can go to other forums that ban Islam !
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#93
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 10:54 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2021 at 7:18 am)arewethereyet Wrote: So the answer to my question is "Yes".

You plan to continue spamming the forum.  

Read the rules...there isn't a loophole that says you can spam the forum so long as you bring new stuff to the table.

It's funny and ironic that you consider "writing topics" in a forum made for "writing topics" as spamming ><
The irony -_-

Or is it the Quran that is making you angry? you can go to other forums that ban Islam !

Watching Darth Vader blow up Alderaan, it makes sense that authoritarianism is the best policy.
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#94
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
At work.

*Raises hand* Technically it was Moff Tarkin who fired on and destroyed Alderan.

Vader was just along for the ride (And torture sessions) having brough the Tantine IV back with the Princess. I'm guessing they were using one of the stations bigger bays to stip the Tantine IV down in search of the stolen plans.

Uhm.....back to the older work of fiction, then. Tongue
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#95
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(August 1, 2021 at 2:22 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
 
   *Raises hand* Technically it was Moff Tarkin who fired on and destroyed Alderan.

  Vader was just along for the ride (And torture sessions) having brough the Tantine IV back with the Princess. I'm guessing they were using one of the stations bigger bays to stip the Tantine IV down in search of the stolen plans.

  Uhm.....back to the older work of fiction, then.    Tongue

Tantive, not Tantine.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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#96
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 10:54 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2021 at 7:18 am)arewethereyet Wrote: So the answer to my question is "Yes".

You plan to continue spamming the forum.  

Read the rules...there isn't a loophole that says you can spam the forum so long as you bring new stuff to the table.

It's funny and ironic that you consider "writing topics" in a forum made for "writing topics" as spamming ><
The irony -_-

Or is it the Quran that is making you angry? you can go to other forums that ban Islam !

You have said you plan to repeat the same thing over and over....that's spamming.

The Quran doesn't make me angry, happy, or anything else. Not once has it been said that Islam will be banned from the forum.
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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#97
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
Let's get back to the topic.

The Islamic Feast of Eid al-Adha, which commemorates the end of the pilgrimage to Mecca, the Hajj, and Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son.

And Christians only know Abraham from the Bible so they are thinking of Genesis 22:15–18, in which Abraham is rewarded for his faith and told he will become a blessing to the nations: “By your descendants shall all the nations of the earth bless themselves, because you have obeyed my voice.”

But most Muslims are oblivious to that interpretation of the story because they read the Koran, in which Allah says that Abraham is an “excellent example” for the believers when he tells his family and other pagans that “there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone” (60:4). The same verse says that Abraham is not an excellent example when he tells his father, “I will pray for forgiveness for you.”

So the Koran, again, holds up hatred as exemplary, while belittling the virtue of forgiveness. It reinforces an everlasting enmity between Muslims and non-Muslims.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#98
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
One of the primary impetus (impeti ?) for the establishment of any religion, in political unification.
The ancients knew well, that it worked.
Alexander knew that and used it.
Atraxerxes and Cyrus knew that, when they had the Hebrew literature/traditions redacted/edited/combined (the 1st 4 books of the Bible) by the Judean priests in Babylon.
They wanted the Hebrew leaders in Babylon to return and reconstitute the disrupted society, and the new Torah of Moses was to serve as the legal and cultural basis of the reconstitution, which would serve as a buffer between their empire and invading Greeks/Sea Peoples. The Arabs were well aware of how religion serves to unify a far-flung empire. That's why we have Islam. Originally, the Arabs allowed any conquered culture to retain the name of their main god, saying "it's just another name for Allah", but they had to give up any more than one deity.
Constantine also was aware of the usefulness of religion. He found that all the infighting in the various Christian sects was a disruptive force in his empire.
So he called the Council of Nicaea. He didn't care what they agreed on as "orthodoxy", but they had to agree on something.
I think you can still read the proceedings of the councils on the links in Fordham University's web site.
It's amazing to "watch" as they cook up what would later become "the faith".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn
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#99
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 10:54 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2021 at 7:18 am)arewethereyet Wrote: So the answer to my question is "Yes".

You plan to continue spamming the forum.  

Read the rules...there isn't a loophole that says you can spam the forum so long as you bring new stuff to the table.

It's funny and ironic that you consider "writing topics" in a forum made for "writing topics" as spamming ><
The irony -_-

Or is it the Quran that is making you angry? you can go to other forums that ban Islam !

Are there Islamic forums (fora) that accept Christians and atheists and humanists and agnostics, and allow full discussion of any topic ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(August 1, 2021 at 2:22 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
 
   *Raises hand* Technically it was Moff Tarkin who fired on and destroyed Alderan.

  Vader was just along for the ride (And torture sessions) having brough the Tantine IV back with the Princess. I'm guessing they were using one of the stations bigger bays to stip the Tantine IV down in search of the stolen plans.

  Uhm.....back to the older work of fiction, then.    Tongue

Actually, Vader was along for the bonding sessions with her daughter. Unfortunately they didn't go so well.
The great appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!
Big James
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