(August 16, 2021 at 2:40 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 16, 2021 at 2:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Please do stop babbling.

More like "applying basic common sense" than "babbling".

Quote:Argument from incredulity, also known as argument from personal incredulity or appeal to common sense, is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition must be false because it contradicts one's personal expectations or beliefs, or is difficult to imagine.

Arguments from incredulity can take the form:

1. I cannot imagine how F could be true; therefore F must be false.
   
2. I cannot imagine how F could be false; therefore F must be true.

Arguments from incredulity can sometimes arise from inappropriate emotional involvement, the conflation of fantasy and reality, a lack of understanding, or an instinctive 'gut' reaction, especially where time is scarce.[3] This form of reasoning is fallacious because one's inability to imagine how a statement can be true or false gives no information about whether the statement is true or false in reality.

Wikipedia || Argument from incredulity

(August 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 16, 2021 at 2:41 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You wouldn't know common sense if it introduced itself before biting you right on the ass.

I am not sure what you mean.

I believe she means you know fuck all.

She's right.

(August 16, 2021 at 8:03 pm)Jackalope Wrote:

(August 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: I am not sure what you mean.

I believe she means you know fuck all.

She's right.

And "fuck all" means "a bunch of myth and lies", or?

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(August 16, 2021 at 2:59 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(August 16, 2021 at 2:40 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: More like "applying basic common sense" than "babbling".

Quote:Argument from incredulity, also known as argument from personal incredulity or appeal to common sense, is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition must be false because it contradicts one's personal expectations or beliefs, or is difficult to imagine.

Arguments from incredulity can take the form:

1. I cannot imagine how F could be true; therefore F must be false.
   
2. I cannot imagine how F could be false; therefore F must be true.
   

Arguments from incredulity can sometimes arise from inappropriate emotional involvement, the conflation of fantasy and reality, a lack of understanding, or an instinctive 'gut' reaction, especially where time is scarce.[3] This form of reasoning is fallacious because one's inability to imagine how a statement can be true or false gives no information about whether the statement is true or false in reality.

Wikipedia || Argument from incredulity

Where exactly do you think that I used argument from incredulity? And why exactly is it fallacious? I mean, if something is difficult to imagine, it is certainly less likely to be true, even though it can be true. Saying "I cannot imagine how F could be true, therefore F must be false." is arguably fallacious, but saying it is unlikely to be true is not fallacious.

(August 16, 2021 at 5:02 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(August 16, 2021 at 5:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There’s nothing to explain - you’re simply wrong. A vegan diet does not protect against COVID or make you more susceptible to bird flu.

Boru

But how could a diet that boosts your immune system not do that?

Hello again.

It would seem you're... not quite right in your assertions.

I've already mentioned before that 'Being healthy' is better than 'Being un-healthy' when it comes to a range of things effecting one's well being.

That a certain diet has less of known effect (A) does not mean that said diet is preventing said effect (A).

I hope that's clear?

When it comes to contracting viruses, again, it's a very complicated thing.

You again seem to be mixing up terms with first making comments to whole populations. Then changing track and talking about individuals.

Yes, a healthy possibly vegan person should have a better chance of their body's systems resisting invading pathogens.

However, in life there are no guarantees.

If a health person 'Craps out' on the odds and receives a massive dose of fomites innitially then they've got bugger all chance of staving off the novel virus they've just encountered. They die despite the efforts of their body's defencive abilities.

Similarly if an unhealthy person only receives a small amount of the virus/fomites then their 'Lesser' body's defences might easily combat the incursion and the person might only be aware of a slight sniffle.

This is why current practices of mask wearing (Glove wearing, surface cleaning etc) is done to reduce ANY viral particles/fomites/etc from potentially being around for others to pick up/aquire.

Cheers.

Not at work.

Nope.

I'm on a vegan diet (when I can catch the bastards), and that has not boosted my immune system at all.

It's simply astonishing how ignorant people can be in an age where almost all human knowledge is literally at their fingertips.

(August 17, 2021 at 8:07 am)Spongebob Wrote:

It's simply astonishing how ignorant people can be in an age where almost all human knowledge is literally at their fingertips.

Its most probably willful ignorance on his part. Note his remark about "intellectuals" in the other thread, and you know what he is all about.

I only eat grass eating animals... so semi vegan?

(August 17, 2021 at 10:13 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: I only eat grass eating animals... so semi vegan?

Second hand vegan

(August 17, 2021 at 7:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Where exactly do you think that I used argument from incredulity? And why exactly is it fallacious? I mean, if something is difficult to imagine, it is certainly less likely to be true, even though it can be true. Saying "I cannot imagine how F could be true, therefore F must be false." is arguably fallacious, but saying it is unlikely to be true is not fallacious.

The fallacy lies in your claiming it is unlikely to be true because it violates common sense. Common sense is just another name for an innate judgement about credibility. That's why "appeal to common sense" is another form of the fallacy. And no, not being able to imagine something doesn't affect the odds of its likelihood.