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Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
#41
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 16, 2021 at 1:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You know fuck all. about diseases and immunity.

Fixed that for you.

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#42
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 17, 2021 at 11:28 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(August 17, 2021 at 7:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Where exactly do you think that I used argument from incredulity? And why exactly is it fallacious? I mean, if something is difficult to imagine, it is certainly less likely to be true, even though it can be true. Saying "I cannot imagine how F could be true, therefore F must be false." is arguably fallacious, but saying it is unlikely to be true is not fallacious.

The fallacy lies in your claiming it is unlikely to be true because it violates common sense.  Common sense is just another name for an innate judgement about credibility.  That's why "appeal to common sense" is another form of the fallacy.  And no, not being able to imagine something doesn't affect the odds of its likelihood.

OMG!  The stupidity is overwhelming!  @FlatAssembler  You must know there are educational opportunities out there.  Maybe you don't.  I have a podcast recommendation that would help you with this gargantuan lack of education if you would be open to it.
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#43
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 17, 2021 at 7:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I mean, if something is difficult to imagine, it is certainly less likely to be true, even though it can be true. Saying "I cannot imagine how F could be true, therefore F must be false." is arguably fallacious, but saying it is unlikely to be true is not fallacious.

No, you are completely wrong and there's tons of evidence to the contrary:

The atomic model
The germ theory of disease
Heliocentric solar system
Stars
The size/age of the universe
Expansion of the universe
Quantum Theory - That's a BIG one!
Compounded interest
The Monty Hall problem
Fibonacci sequence
So, so many more.  Too many to count.
Why is it so?
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#44
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 16, 2021 at 4:54 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 5:08 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. Vegan diet does nothing of the sort. Whoever is feeding this crap to you needs a good slapping.

A vegan (or, for that sake, a vegetarian or a semi-vegetarian diet) almost by definition protects against colon cancer caused by heme iron mixed with omega-6 acids, since heme iron is found only in red meat. A vegan, vegetarian, or a semi-vegetarian diet, therefore, does not include heme iron. A vegan diet is also less likely to be high in saturated fat leading to type-2-diabetes and heart disease.

Baloney. Your claim was that it prevents COVID. Support that claim or shut up.

Got any homework you need help with today?

(August 16, 2021 at 1:59 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 16, 2021 at 1:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Bullshit.

As a cancer survivor, I can tell you that I was able to fight off may other things during the time from diagnosis to being declared cancer free.  

Chemo can definitely hamper your immune system but not all cancer patients go the chemo route...me being one of those.

You know fuck all about diseases and immunity.
"Many things" are not COVID-19.
To be honest, I am not aware of chemotherapy having any effect on the immune system. Where can I read more about it?

Bloody hell. Everyone is aware of that consequence, particulary those who have suffered or whose family have suffered. Are you really that clueless?
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#45
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
One episode of House is all it takes to exceed this douche's body of knowledge.
Why is it so?
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#46
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 17, 2021 at 6:11 pm)Spongebob Wrote: One episode of House is all it takes to exceed this douche's body of knowledge.

One high school biology class will do the same.
  
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#47
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
Does talking yourself into taking unnecessary risks ever make sense?  Skip the weak rationalization and get on with self destruction.
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#48
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 17, 2021 at 11:28 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(August 17, 2021 at 7:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Where exactly do you think that I used argument from incredulity? And why exactly is it fallacious? I mean, if something is difficult to imagine, it is certainly less likely to be true, even though it can be true. Saying "I cannot imagine how F could be true, therefore F must be false." is arguably fallacious, but saying it is unlikely to be true is not fallacious.

The fallacy lies in your claiming it is unlikely to be true because it violates common sense.  Common sense is just another name for an innate judgement about credibility.  That's why "appeal to common sense" is another form of the fallacy.  And no, not being able to imagine something doesn't affect the odds of its likelihood.

I think you do not understand the basics of the scientific method. Being able to explain how something happens is strong evidence that it indeed happens. That is called mechanicistic evidence. It is the difference between a reasonable hypothesis and an unreasonable hypothesis.

The hypothesis that heart disease is caused by saturated fat is supported by mechanicistic evidence, because the mathematical models predict a more-or-less linear dependence of heart disease on saturated fat. The hypothesis that heart disease is caused by too much calcium is not so much, because the math does not really add up for the claim that calcium is the limiting factor in calcifying the cholesterol. The hypothesis that saturated fat cause heart disease is more likely than the hypothesis that calcium causes heart disease, and both of them are far more likely than the claim that too much protein somehow magically leads to heart disease. It is because of mechanicistic evidence, also known as personal incredulity.

Sometimes it will lead to a wrong conclusion, most famously in the case of Ignaz Semmelweis (whose idea that handwashing helps was rejected because he could not scientifically explain how it could possibly work), but there does not appear to be an alternative.

(August 17, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Spongebob Wrote:
(August 17, 2021 at 11:28 am)Angrboda Wrote: The fallacy lies in your claiming it is unlikely to be true because it violates common sense.  Common sense is just another name for an innate judgement about credibility.  That's why "appeal to common sense" is another form of the fallacy.  And no, not being able to imagine something doesn't affect the odds of its likelihood.

OMG!  The stupidity is overwhelming!  @FlatAssembler  You must know there are educational opportunities out there.  Maybe you don't.  I have a podcast recommendation that would help you with this gargantuan lack of education if you would be open to it.

Why would I have to be uneducated? I am a third-year computer science student, and I know very well that if you cannot explain how a program you have made works, it almost certainly does not work properly.

(August 17, 2021 at 10:13 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: I only eat grass eating animals... so semi vegan?

Nope, that does nothing to protect you against heme iron.
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#49
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 18, 2021 at 5:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 17, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Spongebob Wrote: OMG!  The stupidity is overwhelming!  @FlatAssembler  You must know there are educational opportunities out there.  Maybe you don't.  I have a podcast recommendation that would help you with this gargantuan lack of education if you would be open to it.

Why would I have to be uneducated? I am a third-year computer science student, and I know very well that if you cannot explain how a program you have made works, it almost certainly does not work properly.


I have no idea what knowledge you possess regarding computers, but you are clearly ignorant regarding logic and medical science.  Those fields are not directly related, which is something you appear not to understand, just another form of ignorance.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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#50
RE: Does trying to live healthy make sense considering an imminent bird flu outbreak?
(August 18, 2021 at 8:15 am)Spongebob Wrote:
(August 18, 2021 at 5:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

Why would I have to be uneducated? I am a third-year computer science student, and I know very well that if you cannot explain how a program you have made works, it almost certainly does not work properly.


I have no idea what knowledge you possess regarding computers, but you are clearly ignorant regarding logic and medical science.  Those fields are not directly related, which is something you appear not to understand, just another form of ignorance.

Logic and computer science are not directly related? How so?
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