(August 23, 2021 at 3:26 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Where in the Bible does it say that?

Boru

Job is the best example.

(August 23, 2021 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:26 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Job is the best example.

But there’s no discord in that story, just poor old Job being tortured for no good reason.

Boru

(August 23, 2021 at 3:01 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 2:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But God hates discord (says so, right in your Holy Handbook), so why would he create it? 

Maybe that’s another bit you conveniently ‘don’t remember’.

Boru

He will allow discord to bring about a greater good.

(August 23, 2021 at 4:15 pm)brewer Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:01 pm)Ahriman Wrote: He will allow discord to bring about a greater good.

The fall back position of 'mysterious ways'.

Used anytime that the god fantasy falls short.

(August 23, 2021 at 4:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 4:15 pm)brewer Wrote: The fall back position of 'mysterious ways'.

Used anytime that the god fantasy falls short.

"He will allow discord to bring about a greater good" is just a factual statement.

(August 23, 2021 at 2:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 2:28 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Your gawd didn't even know where Adam and Eve were hiding after they chowed down on the apples.

Yes He did. When He asked, "Where are you?", it wasn't that He didn't know where they were or what had happened, it was said as a confirmation that He did, in fact, know what Adam and Eve had done.

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Quote:You've never read that nasty book of iron age myths... er.... the buy-bull, have you?

Yes, I've read it.

(August 23, 2021 at 4:50 pm)brewer Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 4:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "He will allow discord to bring about a greater good" is just a factual statement.

I don't think you know the definition of factual. What you claimed was an assertion.

(August 23, 2021 at 4:53 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 2:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yes He did. When He asked, "Where are you?", it wasn't that He didn't know where they were or what had happened, it was said as a confirmation that He did, in fact, know what Adam and Eve had done.

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Yes, I've read it.

No, you have not. What is your position on human sacrifice?

(August 23, 2021 at 3:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But there’s no discord in that story, just poor old Job being tortured for no good reason.

Boru

Yeah sorry, I was under the impression "discord" could also mean the same thing as "ruination", but I looked it up on Google, and it turns out I was wrong. But what about the story of Jesus? Jesus and the religious authorities of His time, were in a state of discord between each other.

(August 23, 2021 at 3:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But there’s no discord in that story, just poor old Job being tortured for no good reason.

Boru

Yeah sorry, I was under the impression "discord" could also mean the same thing as "ruination", but I looked it up on Google, and it turns out I was wrong. But what about the story of Jesus? Jesus and the religious authorities of His time, were in a state of discord between each other.

(August 23, 2021 at 5:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 23, 2021 at 3:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah sorry, I was under the impression "discord" could also mean the same thing as "ruination", but I looked it up on Google, and it turns out I was wrong. But what about the story of Jesus? Jesus and the religious authorities of His time, were in a state of discord between each other.

Assuming for the moment that the Jesus story is factual (it isn’t), what ‘greater good’ was achieved by it? We’re always being told that Jesus died for our sins. If that’s so, he could have written a manifesto and thrown himself under the next passing oxcart - the results would have been the same.

So, if God created this discord, he didn’t manage to achieve any greater good by doing so, and we’re left with the conclusion that God creates discord for its own sake. That’s kinda nutty. You should expect better from your Supreme Being.

Boru