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Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
(October 28, 2021 at 12:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2021 at 7:05 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: And they might actually be interesting if you could show that they were true. Derp.
What kind of logic is that.......that's like watching the Lion King (the cartoon movie) and going, "I can't watch this anymore, it's just so uninteresting, because I know this stuff didn't happen in real life"

I dunno, man. I guess some of us care about whether or not our beliefs are true. Clearly you aren’t one of those people.

Or - 

You’re just a low-effort troll badly in need of a hobby. Personally, I’m leaning toward the latter.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
I can get why people think it's ridiculous to seek meaning that isn't there. Some troll on an internet board says "this is meaning" and they're wrong, just pulling things out of their ass even by their own admission.

But useless pieces of shit like that don't explain why people consider other descriptions of meaning to be equivalent to those. It's probably safe to posit that Ahri lives a meaningless life - that whatever meaning there is to be found, Ahri doesn't have access. I doubt, for example, that anyone loves Ahri more than Ahri loves itself, or it's own ideas. That it's failed to create or discover the sort of relationships we take to be meaningful or to signify meaning. That, in short, Ahri and many things like it assert constricted and batshit senses of meaning to console themselves over the lack of anything real in their lives, in this life. That they..personally..are wrong about meaning from the outset and so cannot help but reach the sorts of conclusions that might strike a thinking person as...deficient...to say the least.

But what explains people who aren't complete dirtballs and their created or discovered meanings..our own?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
(October 28, 2021 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 28, 2021 at 12:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote: What kind of logic is that.......that's like watching the Lion King (the cartoon movie) and going, "I can't watch this anymore, it's just so uninteresting, because I know this stuff didn't happen in real life"

I dunno, man. I guess some of us care about whether or not our beliefs are true. Clearly you aren’t one of those people.

Or - 

You’re just a low-effort troll badly in need of a hobby. Personally, I’m leaning toward the latter.
What are some of your beliefs? I guarantee I can prove they're not true.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
Unlikely, since you reject any structure for demonstrating as much. This isn't to say that many people don't believe many untrue things - just noticing that you're fundamentally incompetent when it comes to making that cogent case.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
(October 28, 2021 at 12:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I can get why people think it's ridiculous to seek meaning that isn't there.  Some troll on an internet board says "this is meaning"  and they're wrong, just pulling things out of their ass even by their own admission.

But useless pieces of shit like that don't explain why people consider other descriptions of meaning to be equivalent to those.  It's probably safe to posit that Ahri lives a meaningless life - that whatever meaning there is to be found, Ahri doesn't have access.  I doubt, for example, that anyone loves Ahri more than Ahri loves itself, or it's own ideas.  That it's failed to create or discover the sort of relationships we take to be meaningful or to signify meaning.  That, in short, Ahri and many things like it assert constricted and batshit senses of meaning to console themselves over the lack of anything real in their lives, in this life.  That they..personally..are wrong about meaning from the outset and so cannot help but reach the sorts of conclusions that might strike a thinking person as...deficient...to say the least.

But what explains people who aren't complete dirtballs and their created or discovered meanings..our own?
Yeah see, that's a mistake. I don't consider relationships meaningful. I'm using a different standard for "meaning" than you are.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
-and that's why your opinion on the matter...doesn't matter.

Don't worry, you'll find a relationship someday and join the understanding of meaning..or maybe not - because you're useless - and no one would care if they knew you. You are of no consequence whatsoever.

Much like your place on these boards!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
Geez, I must have really struck a nerve. Tell it to someone who cares.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
(October 28, 2021 at 12:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2021 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I dunno, man. I guess some of us care about whether or not our beliefs are true. Clearly you aren’t one of those people.

Or - 

You’re just a low-effort troll badly in need of a hobby. Personally, I’m leaning toward the latter.
What are some of your beliefs? I guarantee I can prove they're not true.

A few posts ago you didnt care if your own beliefs are true, and now you pretend to care about LFCs beliefs?
Like LFC said earlier: A bit more effort...please.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
Quote:Geez, I must have really struck a nerve. Tell it to someone who cares.
If that's how you interpreted his comment your more lost then we thought
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
(October 28, 2021 at 12:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 28, 2021 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I dunno, man. I guess some of us care about whether or not our beliefs are true. Clearly you aren’t one of those people.

Or - 

You’re just a low-effort troll badly in need of a hobby. Personally, I’m leaning toward the latter.
What are some of your beliefs? I guarantee I can prove they're not true.

That’s an interesting challenge. I believe the earth revolves around the sun.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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