Okay, for what it's worth, he has a point that expecting the parents to totally adjust to the newfound gender identity immediately is a bit unrealistic. This doesn't mean they shouldn't try and accept their new son's identity.

(November 11, 2021 at 4:03 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, for what it's worth, he has a point that expecting the parents to totally adjust to the newfound gender identity immediately is a bit unrealistic. This doesn't mean they shouldn't try and accept their new son's identity.

Agreed they didn't even try. Also how does this one incident prove anything?

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(November 11, 2021 at 3:36 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Is that the same guy who said that teaching children about consent is disgusting?

Matt Walsh is a fascist(no  he literally is)

Huggy loves anecdotes as evidence.

I have met many human type persons from many different lands in my travels, outside of the accent and the loss of culture, humans are the same, no matter where they are from. You are either cool, or your not. Nothing else matters.

(November 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm)no one Wrote: I have met many human type persons from many different lands in my travels, outside of the accent and the loss of culture, humans are the same, no matter where they are from. You are either cool, or your not. Nothing else matters.

And the movie scene that I will never not see when I hear that song:

(November 11, 2021 at 4:03 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, for what it's worth, he has a point that expecting the parents to totally adjust to the newfound gender identity immediately is a bit unrealistic. This doesn't mean they shouldn't try and accept their new son's identity.

IMO no one  is obliged to accept the new identity.  They are obliged to obey the law.  We are not here to meet the expectations of others. Except of course if promises are made. Then I think there is a moral obligation.

Quote:IMO no one  is obliged to accept the new identity.  They are obliged to obey the law.  We are not here to meet the expectations of others. Except of course if promises are made. Then I think there is a moral obligation.

Nope 

(November 11, 2021 at 5:08 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(November 11, 2021 at 4:03 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Okay, for what it's worth, he has a point that expecting the parents to totally adjust to the newfound gender identity immediately is a bit unrealistic. This doesn't mean they shouldn't try and accept their new son's identity.

IMO no one  is obliged to accept the new identity.  They are obliged to obey the law.  We are not here to meet the expectations of others. Except of course if promises are made. Then I think there is a moral obligation.

That would probably depend on whether or not they’re obligated to not alienate themselves from the person in question. Or to do to someone from a demographic that’s very prone to suicide the exact sort of thing that makes them more likely to off themselves.

Why is it so hard to address people by the pronouns they want to be addressed by. You don't even have to like them to do that. If a female friend of mine came along and told me one day that she was a he I'd be like, "Cool. Now we can do guy stuff." And if a guy came along and said he was a she I'd be like, "Cool. Now you get to wear all them fancy dresses and slick high heels. If you want."