(November 18, 2021 at 10:31 pm)brewer Wrote: Magic and science rarely occupy the same space.

That depends on where one happens to be.

To the ignorant , science can seem to be magic.


I remain ignorant of exactly how computers work (code is magic to me)

As for the very idea that the universe may in fact have come from nothing---that does me head in.

(November 18, 2021 at 11:12 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(November 18, 2021 at 10:31 pm)brewer Wrote: Magic and science rarely occupy the same space.

That depends on where one happens to be.

To the ignorant , science can seem to be magic.


I remain ignorant of exactly how computers work (code is magic to me)

As for the very idea that the universe may in fact have come from nothing---that does me head in.

Yikes! Don't understand = magic?

Boru

The OT God seems pretty badass and cool to me.

(November 19, 2021 at 9:16 am)Ahriman Wrote: The OT God seems pretty badass and cool to me.

Which bits do you find ‘cool’? Sending bears to rip children apart? Forcing a rape victim to marry her attacker? Endorsing slavery, rape, murder and genital mutilation?

Boru

If evolution is wrong, why do we need a different flu jab every year because the flu virus has mutated slightly?

@Ferrocyanide "Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?" — Job 39:9–12 (KJV)
also translated as wild ox, rhinoceros or Oryx; but it's in there.

(November 19, 2021 at 9:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 19, 2021 at 9:16 am)Ahriman Wrote: The OT God seems pretty badass and cool to me.

Which bits do you find ‘cool’? Sending bears to rip children apart? Forcing a rape victim to marry her attacker? Endorsing slavery, rape, murder and genital mutilation?

Boru

I'm sure that in Ahri's world that's never considered.

(November 19, 2021 at 8:44 am)brewer Wrote:

(November 18, 2021 at 11:12 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: That depends on where one happens to be.

To the ignorant , science can seem to be magic.


I remain ignorant of exactly how computers work (code is magic to me)

As for the very idea that the universe may in fact have come from nothing---that does me head in.

Yikes! Don't understand = magic?

Perhaps of myself, I should have used a term such as 'a marvel'.

You don't get say  the 'magic' of say a person seeing person seeing an airplane when there is no such thing in your own culture? As a child I was apparently terrified the first time I saw a movie; thought it was real and that the theatre was on fire. I was about 3.No TV here at that time.

A great example are the Cargo cults of Melanesia. One of 'em worships prince Philip.

--These things came from the sky and had all kinds of wonderful things inside.  So, some tribes built 'airstrips' and 'control towers' to lure the magical beings.


A cargo cult is an indigenist millenarian belief system in which adherents perform rituals which they believe will cause a more technologically advanced society to deliver goods. These cults were first described in Melanesia in the wake of contact with allied military forces during the Second World War.

Isolated and pre-industrial island cultures that were lacking technology found soldiers and supplies arriving in large numbers, often by airdrop. The soldiers would trade with the islanders. After the war, the soldiers departed. Cargo cults arose, attempting to imitate the behaviors of the soldiers, thinking that this would cause the soldiers and their cargo to return. Some cult behaviors involved mimicking the day-to-day activities and dress styles of soldiers, such as performing parade ground drills with wooden or salvaged rifles.

Cargo cult - Wikipedia