How Republicans see him


How he really is

How Republicans see him 



How he really is 

(December 11, 2021 at 3:02 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(December 10, 2021 at 10:14 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Latino voters can be a conservative cohort.  Cubans in miami, for example, eat that racist shit up.  The people who it's aimed at don't vote..because they can't..even though the reich wing will swear to christ they do.

Neocons did alot of work there, if you'll recall - which was a great idea...seems silly to blow it all up - but trumpism is silly, so I guess that tracks.  You might think that there's some ground swell of minority support for the reich wing..but they seem to know better, judging by all the voter disenfranchisement bills.  Who do you think has the better appraisal of the reality of that situation..you, or the guys running the numbers informing those policies?

Ultimately, they're polishing brass on the titanic, as the demographic change that is already swamping them isn't ethnic.  It's the age of millenials - the most liberal voting bloc in modern american history.  It isn't really going to be the hyper fecund invaders with calves the size of canteloupes ..or even their kids, that nail the coffin shut..it's the reich wingers own children.  The ones that wont call or answer their calls anymore.

(im a little disappointed, honestly...we've had this exact convo multiple times, and at least once you seemed to acknowledge how silly the pretense was...and yet here we are, again..)

No need to be disappointed. By demographic changes, I'm not claiming that Latinos are not white. They are white. I simply meant it in the sense that for instance, white Armenians are a little different from white Irish or white Italians. White Latinos have their own culture/ political views to a degree much of the time, but they are still as white as anyone else. I'm not trying to dispute that. Latino voters being this evenly split between the Ds and Rs was maybe something that you saw coming, but no one else really predicted this before Trump ran for office. It's a pretty big shocker for most I would think.

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Tell me again how you’re not racist. 

Boru

*wipes coffee off computer screen* Best. Menu. Board. Ever!

(December 16, 2021 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 11, 2021 at 3:02 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: No need to be disappointed. By demographic changes, I'm not claiming that Latinos are not white. They are white. I simply meant it in the sense that for instance, white Armenians are a little different from white Irish or white Italians. White Latinos have their own culture/ political views to a degree much of the time, but they are still as white as anyone else. I'm not trying to dispute that. Latino voters being this evenly split between the Ds and Rs was maybe something that you saw coming, but no one else really predicted this before Trump ran for office. It's a pretty big shocker for most I would think.

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Tell me again how you’re not racist. 

Boru

Not quite sure what you're getting at here, Boru. Millions of Latinos identify as white. How is me accepting their identity a bad thing? They want to be known as white, therefore they are white. Just like with the Irish. The Irish used to not be considered white, and then they were considered white. Italians used to not be considered white, and then they were considered white. The Grand Nudger called me racist before because I was taking about Latinos and Jews as distinct groups separate from whites, and TGN educated me and showed me that Latinos and Jews have just as much of a right/ claim to be considered white as any other white person. Now I'm being called racist because YOU don't understand what white means, like I didn't understand before The Grand Nudger clued me in on the subject.

You have absolutely zero evidence or quotes showing me posting anything racist, so you have to resort to calling me a racist because I call white Latinos white when that's what they want to be called? You're losing it, grumpy old man. You are the one who needs to learn to show some respect to white Latinos and start calling them what they want to be called. It's called having courtesy and respect for others and respecting and affirming their identity. Get with the times.

And word wall of denialism  

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(December 16, 2021 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 11, 2021 at 3:02 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: No need to be disappointed. By demographic changes, I'm not claiming that Latinos are not white. They are white. I simply meant it in the sense that for instance, white Armenians are a little different from white Irish or white Italians. White Latinos have their own culture/ political views to a degree much of the time, but they are still as white as anyone else. I'm not trying to dispute that. Latino voters being this evenly split between the Ds and Rs was maybe something that you saw coming, but no one else really predicted this before Trump ran for office. It's a pretty big shocker for most I would think.

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Tell me again how you’re not racist. 

Boru

IA response is essentially wordy denialism 

How do you like them apples, The Grand Nudger? Boru and Helios' best evidence for me being a racist is that I adopted one of your positions. You and I respecting other people's identities is bad because... I don't know. Boru and Helios haven't quite explained that part just yet, but I'm sure they're getting to it.

And before you respond by telling me to stop playing victim or something, I have a right to respond to the BS that Boru posted, and Boru is the one that took the Trump thread off topic and should know better. And I think you hate white people because you do, so let's get past that talking point. You endorsed a video of someone saying they don't like white people because we "smell funky". Mask off.

IA trying to engage in forum discourse

The new Dirch?

I heard the idea that it's a contradiction that Trump can be a moron and the next Hitler. What people don't get is he can be both. A person can be a total moron but be persuasive enough to convince people of his bullshit.