[Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
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[Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
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December 20, 2021 at 6:08 pm
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2021 at 6:09 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
It’s so cute watching Winter and Kloro argue. Kind of like when Potter nerds and Tolkien nerds spat over Dumbledore vs Gandalf.
Boru (It’s Gandalf. Duh.)
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
December 20, 2021 at 9:25 pm
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Well, here we go again. The same method of verification used for the quran was used for hadith. To doubt the one casts doubt on the other because they are equivalently composed and vouchsafed.
John got it from Steve who heard it from Phil whose step-brother was married to Grant the son of Jerry who overheard the prophet say.......
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 RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
December 21, 2021 at 1:26 am
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2021 at 1:28 am by Anomalocaris.)
(September 17, 2021 at 5:18 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:(September 17, 2021 at 5:15 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I appreciate the effort, but this is futile. Hope springs eternal…huh? (September 18, 2021 at 6:10 am)Deesse23 Wrote:(September 18, 2021 at 4:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: He's already explained that - if he goes to Muslim forums preaching the same stuff, he's likely to be banned from them. Here, on the other hand, he's found a safe haven for his lunacy. In essence, he's decided that shouting down a well is better for him than not shouting at all. Some implies >0.  RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
December 21, 2021 at 11:11 am
For what it's worth, I think Quranism is a step in a better direction. Many of the worst parts of Islamism come from Hadiths, like the age of Muhammed's wife Aisha, which is used as a justification for child marriage in some Sunni-dominated countries. OTH, I think Marcionism was a step in a better direction for Christians, and look what happened to them.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
December 21, 2021 at 11:34 am
(December 21, 2021 at 11:11 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: For what it's worth, I think Quranism is a step in a better direction. Many of the worst parts of Islamism come from Hadiths, like the age of Muhammed's wife Aisha, which is used as a justification for child marriage in some Sunni-dominated countries. OTH, I think Marcionism was a step in a better direction for Christians, and look what happened to them. The irony is that many (I’m tempted to say ‘most’) Christians today are Marcionists in a broad, practical sense. Marcion rejected the OT out of hand, while modern Christers do so by claiming that the salvation offered by Jebus negates all those uncomfortable bits. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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December 21, 2021 at 1:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2021 at 1:11 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 20, 2021 at 6:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 original post: Wrote: It’s so cute watching Winter and Kloro argue. Kind of like when Potter nerds and Tolkien nerds spat over Dumbledore vs Gandalf. What the post should be after correction: Quote:It’s so cute watching Winter and Kloro argue. Kind of like when Potter nerds and Tolkien nerds spat over Dumbledore vs Gandalf. I corrected that for you  .(December 21, 2021 at 11:11 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: For what it's worth, I think Quranism is a step in a better direction. Many of the worst parts of Islamism come from Hadiths, like the age of Muhammed's wife Aisha, which is used as a justification for child marriage in some Sunni-dominated countries. OTH, I think Marcionism was a step in a better direction for Christians, and look what happened to them. The Hadith contains hideous parts belonging to some sick mentalities that ruled the Ummah; Muslims forget that only 500 years ago the world was so different and Islamic empires had civil wars; each with their own religious doctrines claiming to be "Islamic". Sunna and Shia are the most famous remaining factions from that civil war. Even today they fight and bomb each other when the chance arises. (December 21, 2021 at 1:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(December 20, 2021 at 6:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 original post: Wrote: It’s so cute watching Winter and Kloro argue. Kind of like when Potter nerds and Tolkien nerds spat over Dumbledore vs Gandalf. It takes two to make an argument, you daft bastard. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Maybe miracles do exist, how else can you explain anyone surviving the oxygen being cut off to their brain for this long?
So Muslims who pray five times a day are not true Muslims because only Hadiths tell them to pray five times a day, and Hadiths are false so they are infidels.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(December 21, 2021 at 3:20 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So Muslims who pray five times a day are not true Muslims because only Hadiths tell them to pray five times a day, and Hadiths are false so they are infidels. Fine question to be honest. What I found in the Quran is the order to Mohammed PBUH to pray according to this timeframe: Quote:Surah 11, The Quran: And in another verse God stated: Quote:Sura 17, The Quran: Thus; the times mentioned according to the verses are: 1-Decline of the sun from its meridian (middle of the day) 2-The darkness of the night 3-The dawn All the other times mentioned was stated in the Hadith; not the Quran. Though these are the times I pray only, since prayer is mandatory on a Muslim as this verse stated: Quote:Surah 4, The Quran: It's a duty, more like regular meditation sessions, healing if you ask me. |
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