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[Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
No one cares.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 17, 2021 at 6:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 17, 2021 at 5:55 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Others do care. It's an Islamic section afterall.
And being a part of this community means a lot: don't forget that "Islamic forums" and "Many Muslims" ban you immediately if you write such topics.

So it’s an Islamic section of the forums - so what? You want point for posting something in the right place?

I will never be banned from an Islamic forum, because I would never JOIN an Islamic forum.

Boru

Of course you won't join an Islamic forum, but I will sure join an atheist forum and hope to transfer my message which I wrote about here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-54806.html

Quote:Why I'm here: a Muslim. My Philosophy in life. What is yours;Muslim?

By proving that my source book -the Quran- did not say a letter of the Hadith; I will satisfy my goal.
By exposing what Hadith believing Muslims do to cover-up the Quran, I will satisfy my goal.

So many Muslims should be ashamed that they ban free opinions.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 17, 2021 at 6:17 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2021 at 6:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So it’s an Islamic section of the forums - so what? You want point for posting something in the right place?

I will never be banned from an Islamic forum, because I would never JOIN an Islamic forum.

Boru

Of course you won't join an Islamic forum, but I will sure join an atheist forum and hope to transfer my message which I wrote about here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-54806.html

Quote:Why I'm here: a Muslim. My Philosophy in life. What is yours;Muslim?

By proving that my source book -the Quran- did not say a letter of the Hadith; I will satisfy my goal.
By exposing what Hadith believing Muslims do to cover-up the Quran, I will satisfy my goal.

So many Muslims should be ashamed that they ban free opinions.

Lol, you don’t need to justify being here. You’re free to join anyforum or message board you want to. 

Just pointing out that I don’t care what the Quran or the aHadith have to say. About anything.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote:


Nobody here fucking cares how you interpret your religious writings!
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: In this topic, I wanted to bring the end of the "sanctity of the Hadith books"
This is a forum predominantly populated by atheists. They dont believe any of your islam(istic) bullshit in the first place. Why dont you go and preach in a forum where people do care about your drivel?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 18, 2021 at 3:23 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: In this topic, I wanted to bring the end of the "sanctity of the Hadith books"
This is a forum predominantly populated by atheists. They dont believe any of your islam(istic) bullshit in the first place. Why dont you go and preach in a forum where people do care about your drivel?

He's already explained that - if he goes to Muslim forums preaching the same stuff, he's likely to be banned from them. Here, on the other hand, he's found a safe haven for his lunacy. In essence, he's decided that shouting down a well is better for him than not shouting at all.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
As I've said to many a x-tian who's asked about my knowledge of their magic book.

Show me some veracity for the thing behind all the claims in sid book and maybe then we can work away at all the jargon contained in said book that describes magic.

Cheers.

Not at work.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 18, 2021 at 4:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 18, 2021 at 3:23 am)Deesse23 Wrote: This is a forum predominantly populated by atheists. They dont believe any of your islam(istic) bullshit in the first place. Why dont you go and preach in a forum where people do care about your drivel?

He's already explained that - if he goes to Muslim forums preaching the same stuff, he's likely to be banned from them. Here, on the other hand, he's found a safe haven for his lunacy. In essence, he's decided that shouting down a well is better for him than not shouting at all.

Boru

Essentially he got the message than neither muslims nor non-muslims are interestied in his drivel, and that didnt light up some neurons in his brain?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 18, 2021 at 6:10 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(September 18, 2021 at 4:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: He's already explained that - if he goes to Muslim forums preaching the same stuff, he's likely to be banned from them. Here, on the other hand, he's found a safe haven for his lunacy. In essence, he's decided that shouting down a well is better for him than not shouting at all.

Boru

Essentially he got the message than neither muslims nor non-muslims are interestied in his drivel, and that didnt light up some neurons in his brain?

Pretty much, yes.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
Quote:( 78 )   And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know.

You always hear "Muslims" who come to you and "twist their tongues" to spit "Hadith narrations" in an attempt to make what they say holy like the scripture. 
 
The verse refers to anyone who tries to mimic scripture to confuse people. This doesn't allude at all to hadiths, because they are not an attempt to imitate scripture.

(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- had nothing but the Quran as a source book; the revelation that came to him from God is "the Quran" only:

Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 19 )   
Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, "Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]."


( 20 )   Those to whom We have given the Scripture recognize it as they recognize their [own] sons. Those who will lose themselves [in the Hereafter] do not believe.

( 21 )   And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed.

Where do these verses say that the prophet had ONLY the Qur'an ? Where is the word only in the verses...? 

(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 3-A direct and clear threat was given from God to any person who comprise false scripture and say "this is from God !":

Hadiths aren't a substitute to the Qur'an, they are a necessary complement. What's so hard to understand about that ?
Also,  sunnism doesn't claim hadiths come from God verbatim.

(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 4-There are so many Muslims -and you saw many of them in this forum and outside- who reject the Quran and say it is either not enough or not obvious enough when a religious matter is under discussion-, instead they paste to you walls of text from Hadith books:

We don't reject the Qur'an, you're trying to build a strawman to make it easy for yourself.

(September 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 5-Concealing the Quran is a cursed deed, the Hadith is an attempt to conceal the Quran and replace it:

That's hilarious. Many hadiths actually encourage reading the Qur'an and promise heavenly gratification for reciting some of its chapters.
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