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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 2, 2022 at 5:49 pm
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(January 2, 2022 at 8:29 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (January 2, 2022 at 12:31 am)WinterHold Wrote: In America alone, spending on keeping that organ away from permanent traumas & stigmas reached 225 billion $ in 2019 !!
Still, it is a society full of psychopaths and their mental health showed what level of apathy it reached in my civilisation's encounter with them in 2003 ! the Japanese told similar stories of utter psychopathy about their ancestors.
To each their view; but you can ask a an African parent who got their daughter raped and killed about where they would prefer her attacker to be trailed: a country where they would be imprisoned for life -with a chance of parole- or an Islamic country where they would be hanged probably.
Technically, the japanese were told those stories by their government, to the point that they threw their children off of cliffs rather than let them be captured. This gutted more than a few mothers who, then, found out that other mothers kids were alive and being treated very well as captives. This is the reason you should just stick with mentioning your barbaric desires and urges, and leave history to people who read it. Also, the Japanese committed plenty of similar acts. Rape of Nanking anyone 
Winter lives under this delusion fascist Japan was this defenseless land made up of hippies rather than aggressive military power who sought conquest and plunder. I assure him that if Imperial Japan had ever taken his lands they would view him as little more than free labor or a pest to be done away with.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 2, 2022 at 9:36 pm
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(January 2, 2022 at 12:32 am)Astreja Wrote: Restorative justice [link], which promotes reparations over vengeance, is vastly superior to punitive "make an example of the criminal" justice.
(January 2, 2022 at 12:31 am)WinterHold Wrote: The brain is a living organ just like your hands. If you cause a permanent trauma to it then the person ceases to function probably...
What part of "No. Fucking. Exceptions." did you not get, Winter?
Two wrongs do not make a right. Imprison a criminal to keep them from harming someone else, yes. Physically maim them, no. To do so is a crime in itself.
If I only "imprisoned" the criminal, then I neglected the victim and banned them -by force- from their right to see the abuser pay for their deeds.
Who said that prison is a fair retribution for crimes such as rape, loot, murder & pillage? I just told you these crimes leave a "permanent stigma".
This will create an inflating bubble of hate & grudge that would end up bursting with vendettas and reflective waves of vengeance.
The rise of populism is my proof. Masses proved that they prefer the populous speech over yours; their motive were clear: they want blind vengeance from the whole world.
Cause? the bubble I just told you about bursted.
It will burst again, believe me.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 2, 2022 at 10:38 pm
(January 2, 2022 at 9:36 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If I only "imprisoned" the criminal, then I neglected the victim and banned them -by force- from their right to see the abuser pay for their deeds.
That is a disgustingly primitive way of looking at justice. Retribution is not the way to go. No one has the right to commit a crime in retaliation for another one.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 2, 2022 at 10:50 pm
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Quote:If I only "imprisoned" the criminal, then I neglected the victim and banned them -by force- from their right to see the abuser pay for their deeds.
That is a truly ghoulish mindset
Quote:Who said that prison is fair retribution for crimes such as rape, loot, murder & pillage? I just told you these crimes leave a "permanent stigma".
Justice is not about retribution. Only a primitive or depraved mind sees it that way.
Quote:This will create an inflating bubble of hate & grudge that would end up bursting with vendettas and reflective waves of vengeance.
No, it won't people are not as bloodthirsty as you are
Quote:The rise of populism is my proof.
No, it's not
Quote:Masses proved that they prefer the populous speech over yours; their motive were clear: they want blind vengeance from the whole world.
Lol no
Quote:The cause? the bubble I just told you about burst.
It will burst again, believe me.
Yeah, your delusional ramblings are never right
(January 2, 2022 at 10:38 pm)Astreja Wrote: (January 2, 2022 at 9:36 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If I only "imprisoned" the criminal, then I neglected the victim and banned them -by force- from their right to see the abuser pay for their deeds.
That is a disgustingly primitive way of looking at justice. Retribution is not the way to go. No one has the right to commit a crime in retaliation for another one. Retribution is the justice of angry children
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 3, 2022 at 2:45 am
(January 2, 2022 at 9:36 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (January 2, 2022 at 12:32 am)Astreja Wrote: Restorative justice [link], which promotes reparations over vengeance, is vastly superior to punitive "make an example of the criminal" justice.
What part of "No. Fucking. Exceptions." did you not get, Winter?
Two wrongs do not make a right. Imprison a criminal to keep them from harming someone else, yes. Physically maim them, no. To do so is a crime in itself.
If I only "imprisoned" the criminal, then I neglected the victim and banned them -by force- from their right to see the abuser pay for their deeds.
Who said that prison is a fair retribution for crimes such as rape, loot, murder & pillage? I just told you these crimes leave a "permanent stigma".
This will create an inflating bubble of hate & grudge that would end up bursting with vendettas and reflective waves of vengeance.
The rise of populism is my proof. Masses proved that they prefer the populous speech over yours; their motive were clear: they want blind vengeance from the whole world.
Cause? the bubble I just told you about bursted.
It will burst again, believe me.
Maybe I don't follow the news well enough - I am unaware of 'vendettas and reflective waves of vengeance' caused by prisoners being put into prison.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 3, 2022 at 7:50 am
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Now we're on to recent history. The rise of global populism has little to do with prisons, and, ironically, alot to do with islam. Specifically peoples fear of islam - driven in the main by ignorance, and islamists like yourself Winter. Seems a bit redundant when you say it out loud, but oh well.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 4, 2022 at 12:25 am
(January 3, 2022 at 7:50 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Now we're on to recent history. The rise of global populism has little to do with prisons, and, ironically, alot to do with islam. Specifically peoples fear of islam - driven in the main by ignorance, and islamists like yourself Winter. Seems a bit redundant when you say it out loud, but oh well.
Seriously? so Hitler was driven by hate towards Islam?
Was Nazi Germany -the father of Right-Wing extremism- driven by hate towards Islam, or hate towards anything "not white-not racist" like them?
Islam was nothing more than another justification for Right-Wing insanity actions and populism, just like Judaism was in the times of Hitler, it is a redundant cycle. Yesterday it was Judaism, today it is Islam, tomorrow it is the left wing.
The age of your outdated (war on terror) propaganda is over, wake up and see that the real enemy is just replacing labels to justify its crimes.
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January 4, 2022 at 12:31 am
Quote:Seriously? so Hitler was driven by hate towards Islam?
Nope in that case it was the fear of communism
Quote:Was Nazi Germany -the father of Right-Wing extremism- driven by hate towards Islam, or hate towards anything "not white-not racist" like them?
Nope in that case it was the fear of communism
Quote:Islam was nothing more than another justification for Right-Wing insanity actions and populism, just like Judaism was in the times of Hitler, it is a redundant cycle. Yesterday it was Judaism, today it is Islam, tomorrow it is the left wing.
Not even remotely the Jews has done nothing to inspire fear in Germany while Islamist lunatics like you have been the greatest boon to right-wing nut jobs ever
Quote:The age of your outdated (war on terror) propaganda is over, wake up and see that the real enemy is just replacing labels to justify its crimes.
Too bad it's not propaganda. It's a fact
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
January 4, 2022 at 12:38 am
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(January 4, 2022 at 12:25 am)WinterHold Wrote: (January 3, 2022 at 7:50 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Now we're on to recent history. The rise of global populism has little to do with prisons, and, ironically, alot to do with islam. Specifically peoples fear of islam - driven in the main by ignorance, and islamists like yourself Winter. Seems a bit redundant when you say it out loud, but oh well.
Seriously? so Hitler was driven by hate towards Islam?
Was Nazi Germany -the father of Right-Wing extremism- driven by hate towards Islam, or hate towards anything "not white-not racist" like them?
Islam was nothing more than another justification for Right-Wing insanity actions and populism, just like Judaism was in the times of Hitler, it is a redundant cycle. Yesterday it was Judaism, today it is Islam, tomorrow it is the left wing.
The age of your outdated (war on terror) propaganda is over, wake up and see that the real enemy is just replacing labels to justify its crimes.
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