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Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
#81
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
Quote:Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with. You are not winning the argument by asking an unrelated thing.

So ask about the fact that Heathen Christians -like Irene of Athens- gouged out the eyes of their own sons.
The Socratic Method is literally asking questions ...... Dodgy
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#82
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
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#83
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:57 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 31, 2021 at 7:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with. You are not winning the argument by asking an unrelated thing.
So ask about the fact that Heathen Christians -like Irene of Athens- gouged out the eyes of their own sons.

I have asked you a question many times.  You are just a fucking coward...just like I always figured you were.

pffft

You are pitiful.

What? you didn't like the "WinterHold Method" that is an updated version of the Socratic Method; i.e the update is actually asking you about the same original topic !

tffffpp..

Again, they used to gouge peoples' eyes in the Christian Byzantine empire for centuries as a formal sentence; your opinion about this savage historical fact?
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#84
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
Quote:What? you didn't like the "WinterHold Method" that is an updated version of the Socratic Method; i.e the update is actually asking you about the same original topic !

tffffpp..

Again, they used to gouge peoples' eyes in the Christian Byzantine empire for centuries as a formal sentence; your opinion about this savage historical fact?
You no methods only madness  Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


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#86
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
Quote:Shame..shame.
So this is how rapists, serial killers and armed robbers are dealt with in Allah's quran.
While in your land, they become guests in 7 star rooms called prison to masturbate for life fantasying about what they did.
Meanwhile, in our land, we treat human beings with dignity and humanity regardless of their actions. Meanwhile, your land has nothing but backward thoughts and deluded savagery
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Astreja Wrote: WinterHold, please confront the endemic problem of legalistic maiming of criminals in Islamic societies in the present day.

The Quran -which I'm taking as my personal law- doesn't orders maiming but in two cases:

1-Robbery, by cutting the hand of the thieve -unless pardoned by the victim-.
2-Cutting both the hand & the leg in the case of the criminal is spreading corruption in the land as the verse say:

Both are absolutely unacceptable responses.  Maiming is never okay.  Ever.  It doesn't fucking matter what scripture authorizes it - in all cases, it is a violation of the criminal's human rights.
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#89
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
How does a person reach someone like you... winter, so completely and inexorably lost? I don't know.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(January 1, 2022 at 1:25 am)Astreja Wrote:
(December 31, 2021 at 7:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Quran -which I'm taking as my personal law- doesn't orders maiming but in two cases:

1-Robbery, by cutting the hand of the thieve -unless pardoned by the victim-.
2-Cutting both the hand & the leg in the case of the criminal is spreading corruption in the land as the verse say:

Both are absolutely unacceptable responses.  Maiming is never okay.  Ever.  It doesn't fucking matter what scripture authorizes it - in all cases, it is a violation of the criminal's human rights.

But Astrega, the whole world -especially westerm countries- are exporting "maiming devices" called live ammunition; and deploy them to fighting jets and landmines, and crossed the level of hypocrisy to sell them for billions of Dollars to dictators who use maiming + butchery towards millions of innocent people, like the "maiming war of Yemen" that the west + Saudi Arabia are waging now.

Calling maiming with other names like "tactical airstrike" remains what it is: a maiming strike. Calling "maiming" with "tactical bombing" to help one sleep at night will not change the fact.
At least Allah says it as it is.
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