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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 5, 2022 at 5:46 pm
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(April 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (April 5, 2022 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, most Buddhists (81%) do accept evolution. In fact, they are the religious group most accepting of biological evolution as the best explanation of biodiversity.
[/url][url=https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/02/04/religious-differences-on-the-question-of-evolution/]https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/02/04/religious-differences-on-the-question-of-evolution/
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I believe that on based on buddhists in the US. Buddhism has no historic or cultural tradition in the US. Those who self identify as buddhists who emigrate to the US are on average far more highly educated than the average buddhist in countries of their origin.
I have some personal experience with buddhists from south east asia, particularly Malaysia, Nepal and Burma, They seem typically vehemently, or as vehemently as buddhist continences allow, anti evolution.
They confidently rebut evolution with the same things heard on US senatorial campaign circuit: “If monkeys became men, why are there still monkeys”.
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That’s far too small a sample size to declare that ‘most’ Buddhists reject evolution. It’s like me claiming that, ‘Most Muslims make excellent coffee’ because I knew some Muslims in Belfast that did.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 5, 2022 at 7:10 pm
(April 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (April 5, 2022 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, most Buddhists (81%) do accept evolution. In fact, they are the religious group most accepting of biological evolution as the best explanation of biodiversity.
[/url][url=https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/02/04/religious-differences-on-the-question-of-evolution/]https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/02/04/religious-differences-on-the-question-of-evolution/
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I believe that on based on buddhists in the US. Buddhism has no historic or cultural tradition in the US. Those who self identify as buddhists who emigrate to the US are on average far more highly educated than the average buddhist in countries of their origin.
I have some personal experience with buddhists from south east asia, particularly Malaysia, Nepal and Burma, They seem typically vehemently, or as vehemently as buddhist continences allow, anti evolution.
They confidently rebut evolution with the same things heard on US senatorial campaign circuit: “If monkeys became men, why are there still monkeys”. Well I think that's a valid criticism. Can anyone explain why there are still monkeys? Humans did not come from monkeys, not directly at least.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 5, 2022 at 11:48 pm
(April 5, 2022 at 5:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I believe that on based on buddhists in the US. Buddhism has no historic or cultural tradition in the US. Those who self identify as buddhists who emigrate to the US are on average far more highly educated than the average buddhist in countries of their origin.
I have some personal experience with buddhists from south east asia, particularly Malaysia, Nepal and Burma, They seem typically vehemently, or as vehemently as buddhist continences allow, anti evolution.
They confidently rebut evolution with the same things heard on US senatorial campaign circuit: “If monkeys became men, why are there still monkeys”.
(Bold mine)
That’s far too small a sample size to declare that ‘most’ Buddhists reject evolution. It’s like me claiming that, ‘Most Muslims make excellent coffee’ because I knew some Muslims in Belfast that did.
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That's a given, since coffee is disgusting.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 1:20 am
(April 5, 2022 at 3:30 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (April 5, 2022 at 1:29 pm)Nomad Wrote: Not surprising really, disbelief in evolution is overwhelmingly based among those who believe in an exclusionary and discriminatory religion.
most buddhists don’t believe in evolution either.
Some discriminatory minds embrace evolution because it appears to provide a naturalistic sounding justification for discrimination.
My point stands. Myanmar is a prime example of buddhisms exclusionary and discriminatory nature. Western conceptions of that religion are different from the reality of if.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 9:11 am
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(April 5, 2022 at 7:10 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (April 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I believe that on based on buddhists in the US. Buddhism has no historic or cultural tradition in the US. Those who self identify as buddhists who emigrate to the US are on average far more highly educated than the average buddhist in countries of their origin.
I have some personal experience with buddhists from south east asia, particularly Malaysia, Nepal and Burma, They seem typically vehemently, or as vehemently as buddhist continences allow, anti evolution.
They confidently rebut evolution with the same things heard on US senatorial campaign circuit: “If monkeys became men, why are there still monkeys”. Well I think that's a valid criticism. Can anyone explain why there are still monkeys? Humans did not come from monkeys, not directly at least. If apes came from other apes, and if birds came from other birds, then why are there still apes and birds? Both questions contain their answers in the question.
You'll have to up your bar for what it means for an utterance to be valid criticism - because, here, you're simply declaring yourself a simpleton - not offering any concern or criticism of modern synth.
Semantically- If apes came from apes, the reason that there are still apes, is because some apes came from apes. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be any apes. That's how sex works. You're welcome.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 9:58 am
(April 5, 2022 at 7:10 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well I think that's a valid criticism. Can anyone explain why there are still monkeys? Humans did not come from monkeys, not directly at least.
Some monkeys became apes. Some apes became humans (which taxonomically are a type of ape).
White people came from Europe, but there are still Europeans. Honey Nut Cheerios came from Cheerios, but there are still Cheerios.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 10:20 am
What made the still-monkeys think being a monkey was better than being a human, that they "stayed behind" in evolution and didn't evolve into humans? How did monkeys magically become humans? Don't pretend like you know.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 10:26 am
(April 6, 2022 at 10:20 am)Ahriman Wrote: What made the still-monkeys think being a monkey was better than being a human, that they "stayed behind" in evolution and didn't evolve into humans? How did monkeys magically become humans? Don't pretend like you know.
I have a good layman's understanding of the process of biological evolution, which is all that's needed to understand that the process itself doesn't 'think' and there's nothing magical about it. Are you just trolling? Because I'm having trouble believing you're really that ignorant and stupid. But just in case you're being sincere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 10:33 am
(April 6, 2022 at 10:26 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: (April 6, 2022 at 10:20 am)Ahriman Wrote: What made the still-monkeys think being a monkey was better than being a human, that they "stayed behind" in evolution and didn't evolve into humans? How did monkeys magically become humans? Don't pretend like you know.
I have a good layman's understanding of the process of biological evolution, which is all that's needed to understand that the process itself doesn't 'think' and there's nothing magical about it. Are you just trolling? Because I'm having trouble believing you're really that ignorant and stupid. But just in case you're being sincere:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution Evolution doesn't explain how monkeys became humans.
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RE: Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice
April 6, 2022 at 10:44 am
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OFC it doesn't, because they didn't. How hard do you plan to work at convincing everyone you're an idiot? How many hours, for how many days, are you willing to commit, and.....when you've succeeded...then what?
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