You’re right, magic book doesn’t make any sense.

(April 14, 2022 at 12:46 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(April 14, 2022 at 12:22 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Because the Quran doesn't make any sense unless the reader believes that what's mentioned in it is real 100%.

In this age, we discovered that over 80% of all matter in the universe is made up of material scientists have never seen. Black holes even look us in the face but we can't see them but we can only measure their effect on the surrounding bodies.

We have photos of them, moron.

(April 14, 2022 at 12:22 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The word spiritual is what ancients used to describe phenomena they can't understand.

Then EVERYTHING must be "spiritual" to you, because you appear to understand nothing.

(April 14, 2022 at 12:22 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I always think about life as a "limited, timed trial" that must end; but there are fates worse than it's suffering; like spending 2×10100 years in a black hole.

Hmm. I never knew you were able to think. You seem to read your magic book, make up nonsense and then simply come to a dead halt. No thinking required for you, is there?

This guy can see "dark matter" and have photos of it    oh God; some people crack me up.

Fact:

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/teach/activ...r%20matter.

Quote:Although we cannot see dark matter and we have not yet detected it in a lab, its presence is made known through gravitational effects. Based on theoretical models of the universe, dark matter accounts for nearly five times as much of the universe as does regular matter.

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(April 14, 2022 at 12:47 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(April 14, 2022 at 12:22 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Because the Quran doesn't make any sense unless the reader believes that what's mentioned in it is real 100%.

In this age, we discovered that over 80% of all matter in the universe is made up of material scientists have never seen. Black holes even look us in the face but we can't see them but we can only measure their effect on the surrounding bodies.

The word spiritual is what ancients used to describe phenomena they can't understand.

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So you reinterpret the Quran in an attempt to fit modern science.  However, future science could increase our knowledge of black holes and change the way we describe them.  Then, you will have to reinterpret again.  That's how the sharpshooter fallacy you so often use is invalid.

Not at all; the Quran itself is what defined the facts in modern science.

(April 15, 2022 at 12:36 am)WinterHold Wrote: Not at all; the Quran itself is what defined the facts in modern science.

Except we never see any scientific innovations coming from Islamic countries. And the Quran is to be blamed. Islamic "scholar" Al-Ghazali in the 11th century concluded that according to Quran, mathematics is the work of the devil, and that's why Islamic countries stayed mathematically primitive since then because Muslims stick to this guy's teachings. No scientific innovations, basically no Nobel Prizes, nothing.

(April 15, 2022 at 12:36 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(April 14, 2022 at 12:46 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: We have photos of them, moron.

Then EVERYTHING must be "spiritual" to you, because you appear to understand nothing.

Hmm. I never knew you were able to think. You seem to read your magic book, make up nonsense and then simply come to a dead halt. No thinking required for you, is there?

This guy can see "dark matter" and have photos of it    oh God; some people crack me up.

Fact:

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/teach/activ...r%20matter.

Quote:Although we cannot see dark matter and we have not yet detected it in a lab, its presence is made known through gravitational effects. Based on theoretical models of the universe, dark matter accounts for nearly five times as much of the universe as does regular matter.

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(April 14, 2022 at 12:47 pm)Ranjr Wrote: So you reinterpret the Quran in an attempt to fit modern science.  However, future science could increase our knowledge of black holes and change the way we describe them.  Then, you will have to reinterpret again.  That's how the sharpshooter fallacy you so often use is invalid.

Not at all; the Quran itself is what defined the facts in modern science.

Really? REALLY? Some scientific 'fact' from your silly, primitive book.

-Geocentrism.

-The sun sets in a muddy spring and rises in a village.

-Creation in six days.

-Earth is older than the stars.

-There are seven Earths stacked on top of each other, and seven heavens likewise.

-The sun and the moon are the same size, and the same distance from the Earth.

-The moon once split in two and then reformed.

-The moon does not shine by reflected light.

-Meteors are missile Allah made to shoot at devils.

-Pieces of the sky can fall and crush people. Same for stars.

-Heaven can be rolled up like a carpet.

-Semen is produced somewhere between the spinal column and the ribs.

-A foetus is a blood clot.

Plenty more to go on with.

Suck it up and admit that your precious Quran is essentially no different than any other mythology, and the stories in it are no more scientific than Balaam's ass or Thor's goats.

Boru

Winter is right in that we cant actually see, or take pictures of, dark matter.
But he conveniently ignores anything else he and his holy book are so terribly wrong about, and what was pointed out to him.
With statements like this (about ability to see dark matter) you are just feeding the fundamentalist troll. He picks and chooses anything (potentially wrong) anyone is replying to him, in order to distract from all the hilariously wrong and idiotic nonsense he himslef posts.

Quran and science, black holes. 1 to the power of whatever being "eternity" (or even remotely close to). Gimme a break.

Quote:Because the Quran doesn't make any sense unless the reader believes that what's mentioned in it is real 100%. 

Yeah, like any other nonsense, claimed by any other fool, ever.

Fucking islamist troll.

(April 15, 2022 at 12:36 am)WinterHold Wrote: Not at all; the Quran itself is what defined the facts in modern science.

Is that what the transmission from the mothership told you?

(April 15, 2022 at 5:54 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Winter is right in that we cant actually see, or take pictures of, dark matter.
But he conveniently ignores anything else he and his holy book are so terribly wrong about, and what was pointed out to him.
With statements like this (about ability to see dark matter) you are just feeding the fundamentalist troll. He picks and chooses anything (potentially wrong) anyone is replying to him, in order to distract from all the hilariously wrong and idiotic nonsense he himslef posts.

Quran and science, black holes. 1 to the power of whatever being "eternity" (or even remotely close to). Gimme a break.

Quote:Because the Quran doesn't make any sense unless the reader believes that what's mentioned in it is real 100%. 

Yeah, like any other nonsense, claimed by any other fool, ever.

Fucking islamist troll.

His rating is higher than mine!

:-(

(April 15, 2022 at 9:50 am)Jehanne Wrote: His rating is higher than mine!

:-(

If anything, that says more about the forum than you.

Pumping their reps encourages them to say loonier shit, believing previous loony shit to have landed.

(April 15, 2022 at 12:36 am)WinterHold Wrote: Not at all; the Quran itself is what defined the facts in modern science.