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That pro white thread.
#61
RE: That pro white thread.
@Irreligious Atheist

Quote:Of course it's understandable for a black person to be hesitant about accepting individual white people as good people when first meeting them let's say, because plenty of white people do blame blacks for the situation they are in, or do distrust them right back based on being black, or deny privilege, and a whole other load of things.

While I don’t necessarily disagree with that on general terms, it’s more understandable for black people to distrust white people than the other way round. 

The people with less economic and political power than you are never the ones responsible for your bad situation. Kicking down might well be the purest form of bigotry imaginable.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#62
RE: That pro white thread.
Contextualizing cultural bigotry for biological bigotry in order to excuse or even affirm social bigotry is all of the bigotries. I think that some people fail to realize this because the rats nest of stupid shit they maintain as fact is too complicated for them to unravel even though they built it.

By some people, I mean our pooor afflicted friend IA, who began that whole tirade by telling us what different races have done and brought..as if there were such a thing to begin with - and managed to string nearly every unhinged thing it believes behind that in what was very clearly intended as a distancing method, internally held, from it's own stupid beliefs.
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#63
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 21, 2022 at 11:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Contextualizing cultural bigotry for biological bigotry in order to excuse or even affirm social bigotry is all of the bigotries.  I think that some people fail to realize this because the rats nest of stupid shit they maintain as fact is too complicated for them to unravel even though they built it.

By some people, I mean our pooor afflicted friend IA, who began that whole tirade by telling us what different races have done and brought..as if there were such a thing to begin with - and managed to string nearly every unhinged thing it believes behind that in what was very clearly intended as a distancing method, internally held, from it's own stupid beliefs.

Of course you would be bothered by me celebrating gay rights.

BLM founder calls financial disclosures triggering to black women and therefore racist, and calls for the abolition of police, prisons and jails, and courts. I wonder how good the gays and trans would have it if the activists like you got their way.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcstICEvurs/
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#64
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 25, 2022 at 6:59 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: BLM founder calls financial disclosures triggering to black women and therefore racist, and calls for the abolition of police, prisons and jails, and courts. I wonder how good the gays and trans would have it if the activists like you got their way.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcstICEvurs/

Sounds like a pretty radical and crazy statement from the edit.  How about context, and not just a sound bite?

The Right and Left often use edits to highlight a statement to "brand" someone a radical.  Sometimes its justified but often it isn't.  Context matters.

Now, if there wasn't any mediating context, then yes, this person is a radical, but how would you know without seeing the full interview?
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#65
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 25, 2022 at 7:46 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(April 25, 2022 at 6:59 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: BLM founder calls financial disclosures triggering to black women and therefore racist, and calls for the abolition of police, prisons and jails, and courts. I wonder how good the gays and trans would have it if the activists like you got their way.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcstICEvurs/

Sounds like a pretty radical and crazy statement from the edit.  How about context, and not just a sound bite?

The Right and Left often use edits to highlight a statement to "brand" someone a radical.  Sometimes its justified but often it isn't.  Context matters.

Now, if there wasn't any mediating context, then yes, this person is a radical, but how would you know without seeing the full interview?
Considering the Instagram title we can assume this is a misinterpretation "Uniteamericafirst" sounds totally neutral and facts based  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


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#66
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 25, 2022 at 7:46 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(April 25, 2022 at 6:59 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: BLM founder calls financial disclosures triggering to black women and therefore racist, and calls for the abolition of police, prisons and jails, and courts. I wonder how good the gays and trans would have it if the activists like you got their way.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcstICEvurs/

Sounds like a pretty radical and crazy statement from the edit.  How about context, and not just a sound bite?

The Right and Left often use edits to highlight a statement to "brand" someone a radical.  Sometimes its justified but often it isn't.  Context matters.

Now, if there wasn't any mediating context, then yes, this person is a radical, but how would you know without seeing the full interview?
Also, I point out she clearly said other systems would be put in place to replace them. That's the position of most abolitionists. She's not proposing utter lawlessness.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#67
RE: That pro white thread.
Do  i also need to point out IA is essentially trying to turn this thread into a black bashing thread  Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#68
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 25, 2022 at 8:27 pm)Helios Wrote:
(April 25, 2022 at 7:46 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Sounds like a pretty radical and crazy statement from the edit.  How about context, and not just a sound bite?

The Right and Left often use edits to highlight a statement to "brand" someone a radical.  Sometimes its justified but often it isn't.  Context matters.

Now, if there wasn't any mediating context, then yes, this person is a radical, but how would you know without seeing the full interview?
Also, I point out she clearly said other systems would be put in place to replace them. That's the position of most abolitionists. She's not proposing utter lawlessness.

Yes, an organization who puts out an edict on their official website calling Jussie Smollett innocent, and a person who says that financial disclosures for non-profits are racist and therefore should not be required by law, I'm sure are people we can trust to come up with an alternative to having courts in society.

What is your alternative idea to "courts", Helios? And I did not bash blacks, liar. I'm bashing activists that are proposing nonsense. Nice that you see blacks as a monolith. Cut it out. 80 percent of black people do not want the police defunded. Stop lying and acting like YOUR views represent black people's views. I was merely responding to Nudge attacking gay rights activists and trying to lessen those achievements.

https://news.yahoo.com/blm-co-founder-sl...46217.html

Patrisse Cullors, a BLM founder, said she found it "triggering" — emotionally compromising — when she hears about financial documents being made public.

Cullors claimed that activists’ lives are put at risk and that they endure trauma by having to disclose their charities’ finances, while also claiming the system "is being literally weaponized against us," the Washington Examiner reported.

"This doesn't seem safe for us, this 990 structure — this nonprofit system structure," she said. "This is, like, deeply unsafe. This is being literally weaponized against us, against the people we work with."
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#69
RE: That pro white thread.
Pro-white?

I actually prefer a decent red, or a dark blue.

Green isn't too bad.

Orange and yellow are out.

Purple? Nah!

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#70
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 25, 2022 at 11:26 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Purple?  Nah!

You colorist!
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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