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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 9, 2022 at 3:23 am
(August 8, 2022 at 1:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The “finally” is my favorite part. You’ve been looking?
……..why? To what end, and what made you expect to find it….?
Same reasons kabbalists make number codes:
"Some say there is a secret code,
That David wrote to please the lord,
But you don't care for ENIGMA do ya?"
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 9, 2022 at 5:07 am
(August 8, 2022 at 5:03 pm)Helios Wrote: (August 8, 2022 at 4:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think another aspect of it may be a kind of Muslim inferiority issue. Their book is the newest of the Big Three, so they’re desperate to make up nonsense to validate it.
Boru Indeed Christianity can at least be seen as a legit split from Judaism (though not without contradictions) Islam has about as much legitimacy as an Abrahamic religion as Mormonism.
I would say that islam is a much more direct split from judaism than christianity, the qu'ran is the torah repackaged for the desert semitic cultures and to justify the arab conquests of the 7th century. Christianity is much closer to the hellenistic and Egyptian mystery religions that were banging around the late republic and early principate. It's just got a few sprinkings of judaism added on top.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 9, 2022 at 1:26 pm
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 4:45 am
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(August 8, 2022 at 12:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 8, 2022 at 11:20 am)WinterHold Wrote: The Old Testament was revealed in the language of the Jews: i.e Hebrew.
Thus the verse was revealed in Hebrew.
It reads in its original tongue:
חכו ממתקים וכלו מחמדים זה דודי וזה רעי בנות ירושלם׃
מחמדים = Mohammed
The word is a noun; Boru:
The word is ‘muhammadim’, not ‘Mohammed’. The literal meaning is ‘lovely’ (source: my wife, who speaks, reads, and writes fluent Hebrew). The literal meaning of the name ‘Mohammed’ is ‘praiseworthy’.
You’re wrong.
Boru
The "im" in Hebrew is a "Plural of respect", you add the "im" to respect the referenced object meant.
Deedat says it in the video in 3:32
"Im" is plural of respect in Hebrew.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 5:20 am
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(August 11, 2022 at 4:45 am)WinterHold Wrote: (August 8, 2022 at 12:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The word is ‘muhammadim’, not ‘Mohammed’. The literal meaning is ‘lovely’ (source: my wife, who speaks, reads, and writes fluent Hebrew). The literal meaning of the name ‘Mohammed’ is ‘praiseworthy’.
You’re wrong.
Boru
The "im" in Hebrew is a "Plural of respect", you add the "im" to respect the referenced object meant.
Deedat says it in the video in 3:32
"Im" is plural of respect in Hebrew.
Wrong again - it is a masculine plural and doesn’t necessarily convey respect. Either way, it doesn’t really help your argument. You insist on taking a simple homonym as some sort of proof about your Prophet.
Maybe you should read the refutation links posted earlier.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 5:48 am
(August 11, 2022 at 5:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 11, 2022 at 4:45 am)WinterHold Wrote: The "im" in Hebrew is a "Plural of respect", you add the "im" to respect the referenced object meant.
Deedat says it in the video in 3:32
"Im" is plural of respect in Hebrew.
Wrong again - it is a masculine plural and doesn’t necessarily convey respect. Either way, it doesn’t really help your argument. You insist on taking a simple homonym as some sort of proof about your Prophet.
Maybe you should read the refutation links posted earlier.
Boru
Just like you should watch the Deedat video, especially minute 3:32, admit you are wrong too.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 6:23 am
(August 11, 2022 at 5:48 am)WinterHold Wrote: (August 11, 2022 at 5:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Wrong again - it is a masculine plural and doesn’t necessarily convey respect. Either way, it doesn’t really help your argument. You insist on taking a simple homonym as some sort of proof about your Prophet.
Maybe you should read the refutation links posted earlier.
Boru
Just like you should watch the Deedat video, especially minute 3:32, admit you are wrong too.
I did watch it. He’s wrong, you’re wrong. Read the refutation links written by Muslims and you’ll see just how wrong you are.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 8:36 am
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(August 11, 2022 at 6:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 11, 2022 at 5:48 am)WinterHold Wrote: Just like you should watch the Deedat video, especially minute 3:32, admit you are wrong too.
I did watch it. He’s wrong, you’re wrong. Read the refutation links written by Muslims and you’ll see just how wrong you are.
Boru Actually only one of the articles I linked was by a Muslim but still, it's one link by a Muslim. The other two were written by Christain counter apologists but still, their counter arguments stand on the evidence from the text.
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 11, 2022 at 8:53 am
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RE: [Shocking Reflection]: Finally, I found Mohammed's name in the Bible and the Torah
August 12, 2022 at 5:25 pm
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(August 8, 2022 at 2:44 am)WinterHold Wrote: I was puzzled my whole life because such verse doesn't exist in the Bible or the Torah;
That's because the present Bible/Torah was/is corrupted, both according to the Qur'an and according to christian scholars. So if the prophet PBUH's name isn't there -a disputed thesis- it can be chalked up to an alteration of the original scripture. Puzzle solved.
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