(August 19, 2022 at 6:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I keep hearing he's frail, but imagine the upper body and stamina it takes to personally starve millions of people.

Let's run with that, though, its pretty bad to do bad shit to people.  Should we give people who do bad shit to people some money?

It's always fear mongering over terrorism with you. The sky is falling and you need to fear the whites because of terrorism. Fear the browns because of terrorism, while your country gives billions to and sells arms to the biggest funder of terrorism in the Saudis.

The Taliban gave Al Qaeda safe haven and you killed hundreds of thousands of their citizens as revenge. Sounds like a fair trade off and we can call it even at this point. Deal? If the US was that worried about terrorism coming out of Afghanistan, they probably wouldn't have pulled out in the first place. This is not a real concern. It's a bullshit virtue signalling against terrorism which is of no threat to you and yours, or Europe and theirs. You're trying to give a purity test to a third world country that is poor as shit and hasn't advanced yet as much as our society has. We should expect them to be immoral as fuck with the conditions they are living in. The US military left the place so Afghanistan could try to make something of their own. We knew the Taliban would be in charge and we made peace with them. "But... but...but... they're the Taliban!" is not an argument you can use anymore. We knowingly handed over the place to them, and after we've fucked their place up so bad, we owe it to them to not only take in refugees and all of that, but we owe it to them to not steal their shit that they need to eat and not die.

(August 19, 2022 at 4:59 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(August 19, 2022 at 3:47 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Stop lying about me and my positions, liar.
Otherwise quote me where i said i dont care about starving civilians.
You cant
Because you are a liar.
So, fuck off.

You literally asked me why I was questioning Biden, who is starving millions of civilians. Sorry for the misunderstanding, but if you are peeved by someone criticizing the person who is starving those millions of civilians more than you are peeved by the actual person starving those children, then things start looking a certain way. Maybe make your position a little more clear next time. So yeah, when you respond to me bringing up starving children by asking me why I'm even bringing it up, it kind of says something about you that you would seem to rather not have the subject brought up at all and brushed under the rug, which makes one wonder why that is.

And again, when I said might makes right, I wasn't literally saying that this is my personal position or my personal morality, so you were not making any type of good point when you continued to bring that up again and again. Might makes right is how the world works, and life is not fair. This means that God was right for drowning most of the world because by definition any act of God is just and moral. I can't believe I have to actually explain this.

Stop sucking Putain's dick idiot.

(August 20, 2022 at 7:03 am)GUBU Wrote:

(August 19, 2022 at 4:59 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You literally asked me why I was questioning Biden, who is starving millions of civilians. Sorry for the misunderstanding, but if you are peeved by someone criticizing the person who is starving those millions of civilians more than you are peeved by the actual person starving those children, then things start looking a certain way. Maybe make your position a little more clear next time. So yeah, when you respond to me bringing up starving children by asking me why I'm even bringing it up, it kind of says something about you that you would seem to rather not have the subject brought up at all and brushed under the rug, which makes one wonder why that is.

And again, when I said might makes right, I wasn't literally saying that this is my personal position or my personal morality, so you were not making any type of good point when you continued to bring that up again and again. Might makes right is how the world works, and life is not fair. This means that God was right for drowning most of the world because by definition any act of God is just and moral. I can't believe I have to actually explain this.

Stop sucking Putain's dick idiot.

But I like poutine, like any good Canadian does.

Russia appears determined to succeed in Ukraine, even if they destroy their country and their military in the process. I don't think Putin will accept anything less than a complete victory at this point.

Quote:It's always fear mongering over terrorism with you. The sky is falling and you need to fear the whites because of terrorism. Fear the browns because of terrorism, while your country gives billions to and sells arms to the biggest funder of terrorism in the Saudis.

The Taliban gave Al Qaeda safe haven and you killed hundreds of thousands of their citizens as revenge. Sounds like a fair trade off and we can call it even at this point. Deal? If the US was that worried about terrorism coming out of Afghanistan, they probably wouldn't have pulled out in the first place. This is not a real concern. It's a bullshit virtue signalling against terrorism which is of no threat to you and yours, or Europe and theirs. You're trying to give a purity test to a third world country that is poor as shit and hasn't advanced yet as much as our society has. We should expect them to be immoral as fuck with the conditions they are living in. The US military left the place so Afghanistan could try to make something of their own. We knew the Taliban would be in charge and we made peace with them. "But... but...but... they're the Taliban!" is not an argument you can use anymore. We knowingly handed over the place to them, and after we've fucked their place up so bad, we owe it to them to not only take in refugees and all of that, but we owe it to them to not steal their shit that they need to eat and not die.

1. It's not fearmongering if we know it's true 

2. Lol AI defending harboring terrorists lol 

3. It's a concern to every security expert on earth 

4. Given the choice between handing it over to them in a peace deal and endless war. That doesn't make them good and not a threat and not solely responsible for Afghanistan's suffering. They are the Taliban is still an argument and reality has shown they have not changed the slightest

5. We stole nothing that money isn't theirs and they are they are the cause of their people's suffering not us 

So kindly shut up about things you have no clue about

Quote:But I like poutine, like any good Canadian does.

Nah you love Putin's dick and apparently the Taliban's too....

(August 20, 2022 at 10:55 am)Angrboda Wrote: Russia appears determined to succeed in Ukraine, even if they destroy their country and their military in the process.  I don't think Putin will accept anything less than a complete victory at this point.

Well too bad that's never happening

(August 19, 2022 at 6:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I keep hearing he's frail, but imagine the upper body and stamina it takes to personally starve millions of people.

Let's run with that, though, its pretty bad to do bad shit to people.  Should we give people who do bad shit to people some money?

True 

(August 20, 2022 at 2:45 pm)Helios Wrote:

Quote:It's always fear mongering over terrorism with you. The sky is falling and you need to fear the whites because of terrorism. Fear the browns because of terrorism, while your country gives billions to and sells arms to the biggest funder of terrorism in the Saudis.

The Taliban gave Al Qaeda safe haven and you killed hundreds of thousands of their citizens as revenge. Sounds like a fair trade off and we can call it even at this point. Deal? If the US was that worried about terrorism coming out of Afghanistan, they probably wouldn't have pulled out in the first place. This is not a real concern. It's a bullshit virtue signalling against terrorism which is of no threat to you and yours, or Europe and theirs. You're trying to give a purity test to a third world country that is poor as shit and hasn't advanced yet as much as our society has. We should expect them to be immoral as fuck with the conditions they are living in. The US military left the place so Afghanistan could try to make something of their own. We knew the Taliban would be in charge and we made peace with them. "But... but...but... they're the Taliban!" is not an argument you can use anymore. We knowingly handed over the place to them, and after we've fucked their place up so bad, we owe it to them to not only take in refugees and all of that, but we owe it to them to not steal their shit that they need to eat and not die.

1. It's not fearmongering if we know it's true 

2. Lol AI defending harboring terrorists lol 

3. It's a concern to every security expert on earth 

4. Given the choice between handing it over to them in a peace deal and endless war. That doesn't make them good and not a threat and not solely responsible for Afghanistan's suffering. They are the Taliban is still an argument and reality has shown they have not changed the slightest

5. We stole nothing that money isn't theirs and they are they are the cause of their people's suffering not us 

So kindly shut up about things you have no clue about

First of all, hypothetically, if I did like Putin's dick, there wouldn't necessarily be anything wrong about that. Finding someone attractive does not mean that you agree with them morally. People go on all the time about how good looking Ted Bundy was. As a teenager, I had a crush on this murderer chick while I was watching her trial. Jodi Arias was her name. Very cute.



You can't give me any concrete reason why the United States, Europe or Canada are in danger because of the Taliban. Please provide me with the information you have showing that they are a threat to us or our allies. Please. I know you won't do it, because you have nothing.

I did not defend harboring terrorists, but 9/11 happened because of actions by the United States. For every action, there is a reaction. You do know that much of the world sees the US armed forces as terrorists too and the US as one of the two greatest threats to peace and security in the world, right? ( https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993754397...-democracy ) And Nudge is saying we can't give money to "bad" people. You do know that the US is a far greater threat to the world than the rinkie dink Taliban, right? The US funded and helped build up these people to fight Russia, and then the US turned on them and they in turn came after the US with their Saudi government funded hijackers. The war in Afghanistan was never going to actually accomplish anything for the States. The Taliban has greater numbers now than when the US showed up, so it was all for naught.

A concern to every security expect? Lol you mean war propagandist?

I don't care if the Taliban has or hasn't changed. It's not up to us to set the standards for them. They're a third world shithole country and if they're ever going to advance, that's going to have to be up to them to choose that. That's why we left and put their destiny in their own hands. Terrorism is a part of life and we need to get used to it. Oh noes! Dozens of people might die from terrorists attacks. I think millions of people starving is quite a bit bigger of an issue than a few terrorist attacks here and there. And Nudge says we shouldn't give them money. We're wouldn't be giving them money. It's their own damn money and they had no right to steal it.

1. I don't think you understand the metaphor about sucking Putin's dick one thing among the small novel of things you don't understand...


2. Lol your denial that the Taliban support global terrorist groups that have it in for the west is fucking hilarious it's you have nothing to show the Taliban have changed and won't simply go back to helping jihad groups across the globe. Also, I find it interesting you think we should only worry about terrorism if it hurts the west I guess the people who are victims of terrorist groups who are not western don't matter or don't count somehow....


3. Ah yes the tired reframe of "America bad " so the actions of groups like the Taliban can be overlooked and the global network of murderous religiously motivated nutcases can be downplayed. Your endless appeals to red herrings and whataboutism is just sad.....


4. Lol that's right everyone whose concerned about global terrorism is a war propagandist ......  


5. So you admit there going to do the same thing and that we should reward them for it and as I said were not the ones starving them the Taliban are ....


6. Apparently we should just accept terrorism now......


If we ever needed proof IA lives in an alternate universe here it is....