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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Lol an article was written by some who has written for RUSSIA TODAY !!!!!

https://www.rt.com/shows/worlds-apart-ok...-zelensky/

Yup totally credible ..... Dodgy


The Kremlin Gremlins talking points refuted 

https://i-katchanovski.livejournal.com/
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Note on the subject of the bridge. There is a lot that is unclear.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/10/europe/ru...s-cmd-intl
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Article from the Intercept on the Russian military's unexpected weakness.

It includes some interesting information concerning US involvement. Obviously, as the war becomes more blatantly an American operation the danger grows. There are nukes involved here.

Quote:...clandestine American operations inside Ukraine are now far more extensive than they were early in the war, when U.S. intelligence officials were fearful that Russia would steamroll over the Ukrainian army. There is a much larger presence of both CIA and U.S. special operations personnel and resources in Ukraine than there were at the time of the Russian invasion in February, several current and former intelligence officials told The Intercept.

https://theintercept.com/2022/10/05/russ...putin-cia/
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
James Risen and Ken Klippenstein are you for real!!!!  Hehe

And even if what those two hucksters are saying is true some US personnel on the ground is neither proof this is an "American Operation" nor evidence  "Nukes Are Involved" Your overactive imagination is getting ahead of you.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
It's truly saddening to see in the west how many normally rational journalists and formally rational journalists have jumped the Ukraine/Russia conspiracy train. Desperate to find the malevolent hand of the United States behind every shadow.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services.

If Britain is directly involved in anti-Russian terrorism, then it's a world war.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrai...ch-bridge/
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
The Grey Zone !!!!  Hilarious Hilarious Hilarious

Quote:The Grayzone is a far-left[12] news website and blog[16] founded and edited by American journalist Max Blumenthal.[13] The website, initially founded as The Grayzone Project,[17] was affiliated with AlterNet before becoming independent in early 2018.[1] The website's news content is generally considered to be fringe.[1][18][19][20] It is known for misleading reporting[21] and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes,[1][14][22] in addition to its denial of human rights abuses against Uyghurs.[26] The Grayzone has published conspiracy theories about VenezuelaXinjiangSyria and other regions,[27][28] as well as pro-Russian propaganda during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone



Quote:Dossier. In the grey zone. How did an American journalist turn into a pro-Russian propagandist?
https://ms.detector.media/trendi/post/30...pagandist/



And of course The Grey Zones head honcho Max Blumenthal

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-the-s...repression

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Blumenthal

Quote:Max Blumenthal (born December 18, 1977) is an American journalist, author and blogger who is the editor of The Grayzone website, which is known for spreading conspiracy theories and engaging in denial of atrocities committed by dictatorial regimes.[2][3][4][5][6] He was a writer for The NationAlterNet,[7] The Daily BeastAl Akhbar, and Media Matters for America,[8][9] and has contributed to Al Jazeera EnglishThe New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.[8] He has been a writing fellow of the Nation Institute.[10] He is also a regular contributor to Russian state-owned Sputnik and RT, and has been accused of spreading Russian propaganda.[11][12][13]
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 2:34 am)Belacqua Wrote:
Quote:The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services.

If Britain is directly involved in anti-Russian terrorism, then it's a world war.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrai...ch-bridge/
Are you done yet, with irresponsibly (and maybe intentionally, attention n stuff, ya know) spreading fear?


(October 10, 2022 at 8:00 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Putin is very popular in Russia now for restoring stability and exercising power over the oligarchs. No one is saying that he's a pure democratic leader and the ideal we would want -- but there's a reason he's so popular at home.
He is a dictator, a ruthless dictator. Assassinating political opponents and journalists inside and OUTside Russia. The rest is put away in prison. The last journalist just a couple of days ago, after having given an interview where he criticized Putin.
Why is is that you are minimizing him and blowing up (or making up) everything else out of proportions? What is your motivation?


Quote:The mainstream media on both sides has created its own bizarre alternate reality
Yeah, but you, YOU have "The Truth", according to.... what? "Some former and current intelligence officers"? A trained geometer who holds a degree in philosophy (we know you are very impressed by anything "philosophy", particularly when you have secreted it yourself).



Quote:I don't know how true this is in your part of the world, but I know it's true in the US and other areas where the pro-US corporate media lie all the time.
Then please tell me about all the GERMAN pro-US corporate media. I want all the nasty details. Enlighten me.


Quote:His response has been far more limited than it could have been

When you call an invasion a "response", and claim that its has been "limited". Then i cant take you serious at all. All i want is your motivations for being to dishonest.


Quote:The US-backed narrative is ridiculously simplified so as to make Putin and Russia into irrational madmen
Strawman, like so many other strawmen you peddle.
He is a ruthless dictator who has invaded another country. And i am REALLY not interested at all in showing him a puppet to show us where someone may have touched him. You know why? Because i do not intend to commit suicide by jumping out of a window after shooting myself in the back of my head, twice.

I know you wont answer me, because you have me on ignore, but like Thump, i like the idea that my takedown of your silly claims will stand without having to endure more of your verbal garbage.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 3:14 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(October 11, 2022 at 2:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: If Britain is directly involved in anti-Russian terrorism, then it's a world war.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrai...ch-bridge/
Are you done yet, with irresponsibly (and maybe intentionally, attention n stuff, ya know) spreading fear?


(October 10, 2022 at 8:00 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Putin is very popular in Russia now for restoring stability and exercising power over the oligarchs. No one is saying that he's a pure democratic leader and the ideal we would want -- but there's a reason he's so popular at home.
He is a dictator, a ruthless dictator. Assassinating political opponents and journalists inside and OUTside Russia. The rest is put away in prison. The last journalist just a couple of days ago, after having given an interview where he criticized Putin.
Why is is that you are minimizing him and blowing up (or making up) everything else out of proportions? What is your motivation?


Quote:The mainstream media on both sides has created its own bizarre alternate reality
Yeah, but you, YOU have "The Truth", according to.... what? "Some former and current intelligence officers"? A trained geometer who holds a degree in philosophy (we know you are very impressed by anything "philosophy", particularly when you have secreted it yourself).



Quote:I don't know how true this is in your part of the world, but I know it's true in the US and other areas where the pro-US corporate media lie all the time.
Then please tell me about all the GERMAN pro-US corporate media. I want all the nasty details. Enlighten me.


Quote:His response has been far more limited than it could have been

When you call an invasion a "response", and claim that its has been "limited". Then i cant take you serious at all. All i want is your motivations for being to dishonest.


Quote:The US-backed narrative is ridiculously simplified so as to make Putin and Russia into irrational madmen
Strawman, like so many other strawmen you peddle.
He is a ruthless dictator who has invaded another country. And i am REALLY not interested at all in showing him a puppet to show us where someone may have touched him. You know why? Because i do not intend to commit suicide by jumping out of a window after shooting myself in the back of my head, twice.

I know you wont answer me, because you have me on ignore, but like Thump, i like the idea that my takedown of your silly claims will stand without having to endure more of your verbal garbage.
He can't handle real criticism or the fact the people he's citing are full of it.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
France's Finance Minister just made a speech demanding that the war in Ukraine not end with American economic dominance of Europe and a weakening of the EU.

They understand what the real goals are.

https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1579476460967903233
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