(October 27, 2022 at 9:10 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(October 26, 2022 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I said it doesn’t spike glucose levels. But this conversation is pointless without any context, tbh.

I'm pretty sure that this conversation is far more pointless than that.

As in, Christian points to Bible passage as proof of the Bible pointless. 

Paleophyte Wrote:Your body doesn't simply store it all or you'd be a hulking slab of beef by age 5.

So, according to you, at which point does your body stop storing protein as fat and starts spiking your blood glucose levels? In other words, how high does your protein intake have to be in order to start spiking your blood glucose levels? Can you give me the numbers? Math is the difference between science and pseudoscience.

What do you guys think, how come eggs (dietary cholesterol) causing heart disease has been understood ever since the 1913 rabbit experiment by Nikolay Anichkov, but butter (saturated fat) causing them since 1950s, and margarine (trans-fat) causing them only since 1970s? Trans-fat has the biggest effect, and eggs have the smallest. I have asked this question on Reddit as well.

Also, what do you guys think, do sesame seeds cause heart disease because of all the methionine in them? Methionine is the only amino-acid that raises your LDL cholesterol, right?

We’ve already been over this. Eggs don’t cause heart disease.

(October 31, 2022 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: We’ve already been over this. Eggs don’t cause heart disease.

I thought dietary cholesterol in eggs does have a small effect on the cholesterol in the blood, it's just that saturated fat and trans-fat have a lot larger effect.

What do you think about sesame seeds? Do they cause heart disease?

(November 1, 2022 at 3:43 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(October 31, 2022 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: We’ve already been over this. Eggs don’t cause heart disease.

I thought dietary cholesterol in eggs does have a small effect on the cholesterol in the blood, it's just that saturated fat and trans-fat have a lot larger effect.

What do you think about sesame seeds? Do they cause heart disease?

You seem to be confused about the difference between ‘cause’ and ‘risk’. Long-term elevated levels of methionine increase the risk of some forms of CVD. This isn’t remotely the same as sesame seeds causing heart disease.

Boru

A little Googling around it's easy to find that consuming sesame seeds MAY lower BP. I can't imagine how much you would have to consume for there to be efficacy.

But that's lowering BP. Not all heart disease is caused by high BP.

I still don't understand why a self-proclaimed linguist is trying to 'educate' people about heart health.

(November 1, 2022 at 5:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 1, 2022 at 3:43 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I thought dietary cholesterol in eggs does have a small effect on the cholesterol in the blood, it's just that saturated fat and trans-fat have a lot larger effect.

What do you think about sesame seeds? Do they cause heart disease?

You seem to be confused about the difference between ‘cause’ and ‘risk’. Long-term elevated levels of methionine increase the risk of some forms of CVD. This isn’t remotely the same as sesame seeds causing heart disease.

Boru

Yes, I am having trouble understanding what would be the difference between "cause" and "risk" in CVD. I mean, I understand what would the difference be in traffic accidents, but what the difference would be in CVD...

(November 1, 2022 at 8:12 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(November 1, 2022 at 5:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You seem to be confused about the difference between ‘cause’ and ‘risk’. Long-term elevated levels of methionine increase the risk of some forms of CVD. This isn’t remotely the same as sesame seeds causing heart disease.

Boru

Yes, I am having trouble understanding what would be the difference between "cause" and "risk" in CVD. I mean, I understand what would the difference be in traffic accidents, but what the difference would be in CVD...

Pretty much the same thing. Let’s imagine that one out of a thousand people will develop some form of CVD. If all of those people eat sesame sesame seeds, then the incidence of CVD will double, but not ALL sesame eaters will have heart problems (just as not all smokers get emphysema or lung cancer).

Therefore, consuming sesame seeds increases your risk of heart disease from .001 to .002. If sesame seeds caused heart disease, your odds would increase to 100%.

Boru

What Boru said.