(January 3, 2023 at 9:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(January 2, 2023 at 6:08 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: the beginning of seriousness about knowing fire can be obtained by tearing the koran into little bits, throw the bits on the floor, stomp on the bits, and then set the bits on fire.    that is a real fire.    

also, i don’t imaging you would suffer at all if you are burning at billions of degrees, nor any more than if you were burning in millions of degrees, nor yet if you were burning at thousands of degrees.    but burn you in the mere hundreds of degrees of a paper fire of a oxidizing pages of koran,  that will hurt, at least for a while.

You would if you were created to take such heat. Notice that when we are resurrected in the afterlife, we would be different in everything.

🤣 if everything is different, how is it still you?

 your claim amounts to everything in the koran can be totally false and still be true

(January 3, 2023 at 8:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(January 2, 2023 at 5:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But the inside of a black hole is cold. Very cold. It’s the event horizon that’s hot. 

You’re very stupid.

Boru

And how exactly did you make that claim?

Do you want to convince me, that a monster that swallows even light has a cold belly ?

Heat is (more or less) the emission of radiation. Black holes emit only a tiny amount of radiation, therefore, black holes are cold.

Quote:A black hole of one solar mass (M☉) has a temperature of only 60 nanokelvins (60 billionths of a kelvin); in fact, such a black hole would absorb far more cosmic microwave background radiation than it emits. A black hole of 4.5×1022 kg (about the mass of the Moon, or about 133 across) would be in equilibrium at 2.7 K, absorbing as much radiation as it emits.

Why Winter Should Look Stuff Up

Boru

That is the temperature of the quantum phenomena associated with the event horizon.   It is not the temperature inside the blackhole.   Temperature has no clear meaning inside a blackhole.

(January 3, 2023 at 9:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 3, 2023 at 9:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You would if you were created to take such heat. Notice that when we are resurrected in the afterlife, we would be different in everything.

🤣 if everything is different, how is it still you?

 your claim amounts to everything in the koran can be totally false and still be true

Human beings are more than just a body; a soul exists in their essence too.
The same soul that makes a difference between man and Windows Laptop.

(January 3, 2023 at 9:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 3, 2023 at 8:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote: And how exactly did you make that claim?

Do you want to convince me, that a monster that swallows even light has a cold belly ?

Heat is (more or less) the emission of radiation. Black holes emit only a tiny amount of radiation, therefore, black holes are cold.

Quote:A black hole of one solar mass (M☉) has a temperature of only 60 nanokelvins (60 billionths of a kelvin); in fact, such a black hole would absorb far more cosmic microwave background radiation than it emits. A black hole of 4.5×1022 kg (about the mass of the Moon, or about 133 across) would be in equilibrium at 2.7 K, absorbing as much radiation as it emits.

Why Winter Should Look Stuff Up

Boru

Hell has both the cold and the heat:

Quote:Sura 11, The Quran:

(106) As for those bound for misery, they will be in the Fire, where they will be sighing and gasping,

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

The sighing is when hell is hot, the gasping when hell is cold.

Food for thought:
https://theconversation.com/the-scariest...ons-148615

(January 3, 2023 at 10:29 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(January 3, 2023 at 9:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: 🤣 if everything is different, how is it still you?

 your claim amounts to everything in the koran can be totally false and still be true

Human beings are more than just a body; a soul exists in their essence too.
The same soul that makes a difference between man and Windows Laptop.

no, the soul makes the difference between a moron and and thinking, informed man.   A thinking, inform man knows soul is wish thinking gibberish.  A moron can’t help but fantasize about a soul and then forget it is a fantasy. 

Your essence is the same as dog turd, you and dog turd and the dog and every other human are made up of exactly the same stuff, and not a single item more.

(December 29, 2022 at 10:31 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(December 28, 2022 at 7:46 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: The Quran is not the evidence.  The Quran is the claim.

It is the evidence, afterall the first book to mention the Big Bang was the Quran.

All the quran is evidence for is that a bunch of 9th century goat fuckers knew somebody who could write.

(January 3, 2023 at 10:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: That is the temperature of the quantum phenomena associated with the event horizon.   It is not the temperature inside the blackhole.   Temperature has no clear meaning inside a blackhole.

Exactly.

Black holes have only three properties: mass, electric charge, and angular momentum
None of them is temperature. Temperature is "not a thing" for a BH. Thus, however "hot" or "cold" Winter thinks a BH must be, according to the Quran...he (and the Quran) will be wrong. Asking for the temperature of a BH is like asking for "what does the colour red smell like?".

Winter, with his claim of how hot a BH is, accoring to his silly interpretation of the silly Quran, has now painted himself into a position where he must be wrong.

 

(January 3, 2023 at 10:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: That is the temperature of the quantum phenomena associated with the event horizon.   It is not the temperature inside the blackhole.   Temperature has no clear meaning inside a blackhole.

This is correct.  However, if the black hole has an accretion disk, there is plenty of temperature in that plasma.  If you fell into one, there would be plenty of that plasma that hasn't hit the singularity yet.

One fun fact - if you were to fall directly into a super-massive black hole from a large distance away, and you had no angular momentum (and didn't get ripped apart by infalling plasma), you would pass the event horizon without being ripped apart by tidal forces quite yet - and yet you would never see yourself passing the event horizon.  That horizon is observer-dependent.

it is only possible to experience the joy of falling without angular momentum into a blackhole if you are already a singularity yourself.    if you have nonzero physical dimension, then the sum of the angular angular momentum of all of your parts may be zero,  but the angular momentum of each of your constituent parts will not be zero.  your individual parts will still be ripped apart.