(January 9, 2023 at 10:52 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 8:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Just don't live in NYC.

I have never been there; my wife & daughters have been there multiple times.  I would live to visit the museum of natural history & planetarium someday, as well as see a Broadway show.  I have heard from my wife & oldest daughter that it's a pretty safe place; cops are everywhere.

If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

several other problems with escape to subway tunnels and down arbitrary manholes:

NYC subway tunnels are substantially built under the water table. the pumps that are used 24X7 to keep the tunnels and subway stations dry actually constitute a large portion of the city’s public service power consumption. should the power grid collapse and the nuclear attack take our any back up generators for the pumps, most of subway tunnels and stations will flood within 12 hours. So the subway stations can not be used as sustained shelter in the case of a real nuckear war in which the nuckear exchange may be protracted with follow on attacks after the first one.

the vast majority of manholes in the streets of new york do not lead to the sewer, but to a huge array of service tunnels carrying power, steam, communication throughout the city. these tunnels are not necessarily generally mapped, once the original entrance to these tunnels are blocked, there is no guaranty the tunnels leads anywhere else where escape from the tunnels is possible. also steam tunnels may well be a death trap due to rupturing of decaying 100 year old steam pipes under seismic stress of ground shockwaves

(January 9, 2023 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 10:52 am)Jehanne Wrote: I have never been there; my wife & daughters have been there multiple times.  I would live to visit the museum of natural history & planetarium someday, as well as see a Broadway show.  I have heard from my wife & oldest daughter that it's a pretty safe place; cops are everywhere.

If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

The answer to that question can be found when the police go on strike.

(January 9, 2023 at 11:22 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

The answer to that question can be found when the police go on strike.

Or when Min gets them all fired.

(January 9, 2023 at 11:22 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

The answer to that question can be found when the police go on strike.

Fewer unarmed black people are shot?

As far as my admittedly sketchy research shows, there hasn’t been a formal police strike in the US in forty years.

Boru

(January 9, 2023 at 11:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 11:22 am)Jehanne Wrote: The answer to that question can be found when the police go on strike.

Fewer unarmed black people are shot?

As far as my admittedly sketchy research shows, there hasn’t been a formal police strike in the US in forty years.

Boru

They just call in sick for work.

(January 9, 2023 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 10:52 am)Jehanne Wrote: I have never been there; my wife & daughters have been there multiple times.  I would live to visit the museum of natural history & planetarium someday, as well as see a Broadway show.  I have heard from my wife & oldest daughter that it's a pretty safe place; cops are everywhere.

If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

because for every policeman that is shooting an innocent black person, 10 others were merely eating donuts and Twinkies, in a professional capacity, of course.

(January 9, 2023 at 11:41 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 11:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If it’s so safe, why are there cops everywhere?

Boru

because for every policeman that is shooting an innocent black person, 10 others were merely eating donuts and Twinkies, in a professional capacity, of course.

Society gets what it pays for; to be a cop in the United States only requires a high school diploma. How many times do FBI agents murder unarmed black men?

(January 9, 2023 at 11:44 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 9, 2023 at 11:41 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: because for every policeman that is shooting an innocent black person, 10 others were merely eating donuts and Twinkies, in a professional capacity, of course.

Society gets what it pays for; to be a cop in the United States only requires a high school diploma.  How many times do FBI agents murder unarmed black men?

That is not true of all jurisdictions.

that comparison is not particularly apt since FBI do not do routine patrol work, or responses to thinks like breaking and entering. the nature of their work affords less opportunity for prejudice to menifested itself in clearly differentiated application of violence.