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Earth's recent climate spiral.
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 (January 19, 2023 at 8:14 am)Helios Wrote:(January 19, 2023 at 8:12 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Disaster is appropriate punishment for those who are responsible for destruction of our planet.No, it isn't. No country should be driven to destruction over this. Instead, we should work together to solve the problem. Countries that are destroying our planet should pay for damage they cause.  Quote:I live few hundred kilometers north of Moscow and we have freezing temperatures for 5 months a year. I really don't mind warmer climate.I live in Canada and I do. Because I freaking know I'll be getting a lot more than warmth when the climate shifts erratically. Freezing temperatures for a few months is a boon by contrast.
"Change was inevitable"
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"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM 
Sounds like Dmitri is crying about poor countries not paying their fair share for the damage they cause to the climate, and arguing that the climate getting warmer is a net benefit out of the other. Of course if it's good that the climate is getting warmer, there's no actual damage to punish. If there's actual damage to punish, it's not good that the climate is getting warmer.
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(January 19, 2023 at 9:59 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Sounds like Dmitri is crying about poor countries not paying their fair share for the damage they cause to the climate, and arguing that the climate getting warmer is a net benefit out of the other. Of course if it's good that the climate is getting warmer, there's no actual damage to punish. If there's actual damage to punish, it's not good that the climate is getting warmer.if it's good that the climate is getting warmer, the US shouldn't pay for it. If there's actual damage, poor countries should provide their fair share of funding.
Now all you have to do is decide whether climate change is good or bad, and then you can have a consistent opinion on the matter of funding.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
RE: Earth's recent climate spiral.
January 19, 2023 at 10:30 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2023 at 10:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 19, 2023 at 3:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Solution would cost $60 trillion according to climate alarmists. I just want 3rd world countries to provide their fair share of funding (January 19, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Everyone should pay in proportion to damage they cause. What happened to fair shares, proportionate to damage? The us is responsible for either the majority of carbon emissions in a historic model, or 14% in a current use scheme.
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Quote:if it's good that the climate is getting warmer, the US shouldn't pay for it. It will not be good and the US should help pay to prevent the damage Quote:If there's actual damage, poor countries should provide their fair share of funding.There will be damage and no poor countries should only have to pay within their means. What you are proposing isn't fair at all.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM Quote:My consistent opinion is that the US shouldn't pay for climate change.Then your position is silly. The US should pay within its means like every other country.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM |
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