And no the Vaccine isn't causing any of that....

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medica...thats-hoax

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudde...nformation

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...vents.html

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-co...9195878254

It's a hoax plain and simple.

(January 28, 2023 at 11:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(January 27, 2023 at 5:48 pm)brewer Wrote: Did you actually read/understand that this is a conspiracy site?

So what if somebody is posting conspiracy theory stuff there? Every claim needs to be analyzed independently. You don't get to dismiss every logical argument just because it is on a website that is also hosting conspiracy theory stuff. Besides, it seems to me that the term "conspiracy theory" has been applied to quite a lot of things that are not actual conspiracy theories, all in an effort to discredit them.

Logical???

(January 28, 2023 at 12:50 pm)Helios Wrote: And no the Vaccine isn't causing any of that....

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medica...thats-hoax

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudde...nformation

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...vents.html

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-co...9195878254

It's a hoax plain and simple.

I feel like you are trying to Gish-Gallop me. Of those 4 web-pages you linked me, only the last one even addresses the study the AMG News is talking about. The third one is not even talking about heart issues, it is talking about kidney issues.
The methodology of the 2 studies that the AMG News study is building upon may be different, but does that really account for the recent one giving 17 times larger result than the older one? 17 times? Really? Until you point to a better study, the AMG News study is the best data we have. If you think it's enough to complain about the flaws in methodology to discard a study, read up on conspiracy theorists (perhaps The Mad Revisionists - the conspiracy theorists who claim the Moon doesn't exist) and consider the matters again. You cannot manufacture the truth by discarding the evidence. That's not how science works. The study that AMG News is talking about is, until you point to a better study, the best data we have.

(January 28, 2023 at 2:21 pm)brewer Wrote:

(January 28, 2023 at 11:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So what if somebody is posting conspiracy theory stuff there? Every claim needs to be analyzed independently. You don't get to dismiss every logical argument just because it is on a website that is also hosting conspiracy theory stuff. Besides, it seems to me that the term "conspiracy theory" has been applied to quite a lot of things that are not actual conspiracy theories, all in an effort to discredit them.

Logical???

OK, fine, they are empirical arguments, so maybe they are not logical arguments if we want to be extremely precise.

Quote:I feel like you are trying to Gish-Gallop me. Of those 4 web-pages you linked me, only the last one even addresses the study the AMG News is talking about. The third one is not even talking about heart issues, it is talking about kidney issues.

The methodology of the 2 studies that the AMG News study is building upon may be different, but does that really account for the recent one giving 17 times larger result than the older one? 17 times? Really? Until you point to a better study, the AMG News study is the best data we have. If you think it's enough to complain about the flaws in methodology to discard a study, read up on conspiracy theorists (perhaps The Mad Revisionists - the conspiracy theorists who claim the Moon doesn't exist) and consider the matters again. You cannot manufacture the truth by discarding the evidence. That's not how science works. The study that AMG News is talking about is, until you point to a better study, the best data we have.

So mindless babble and pushing pseudoscience nuttery. And your whole case is built on nothing...

Quote:OK, fine, they are empirical arguments, so maybe they are not logical arguments if we want to be extremely precise.

They aren't arguments at all simply mindless babble.

And more evidence it's garbage 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/20...b34c4475c2

https://trendeepro.com/claims-baselessly...te-deaths/

https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/vacci...ing-so-bad

https://news.grabien.com/story-mehdi-has...doesn-t-ha

https://ijr.com/reporter-pushes-back-false-theories/

Fs conspiracy quack sites got nothing and I repeat bad science is not a replacement for no science.

(January 28, 2023 at 11:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(January 27, 2023 at 5:48 pm)brewer Wrote: Did you actually read/understand that this is a conspiracy site?

So what if somebody is posting conspiracy theory stuff there? Every claim needs to be analyzed independently. You don't get to dismiss every logical argument just because it is on a website that is also hosting conspiracy theory stuff. Besides, it seems to me that the term "conspiracy theory" has been applied to quite a lot of things that are not actual conspiracy theories, all in an effort to discredit them.

We have a thread for COVID conspiracy theories.  You may find yourself there if you don't find a fact or two from a legitimate source.

All he has is babble and nonesense 

(January 28, 2023 at 4:08 pm)Helios Wrote:

Quote:I feel like you are trying to Gish-Gallop me. Of those 4 web-pages you linked me, only the last one even addresses the study the AMG News is talking about. The third one is not even talking about heart issues, it is talking about kidney issues.

The methodology of the 2 studies that the AMG News study is building upon may be different, but does that really account for the recent one giving 17 times larger result than the older one? 17 times? Really? Until you point to a better study, the AMG News study is the best data we have. If you think it's enough to complain about the flaws in methodology to discard a study, read up on conspiracy theorists (perhaps The Mad Revisionists - the conspiracy theorists who claim the Moon doesn't exist) and consider the matters again. You cannot manufacture the truth by discarding the evidence. That's not how science works. The study that AMG News is talking about is, until you point to a better study, the best data we have.

So mindless babble and pushing pseudoscience nuttery. And your whole case is built on nothing...

My case is built on an actual study, one cited by AMG News.