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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
December 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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(December 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (December 12, 2011 at 5:43 pm)Chuck Wrote: (December 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm)frankiej Wrote: With evolution, you have win 
The circle of winners is too large if it includes waldork.
He doesn't believe in evolution.
In that case let evolution be exactly as merciful as Jesus and prune waldork's branch with him.
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December 12, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Come on Statler, I've refuted ASC.
Don't you have a come back?
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December 12, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Hmmmm, let me guess, his come back will be babbling the same shit all over again, proving no wisdom can ever fail to be wasted on him.
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
December 12, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Oh no matter what way you slice it Yahweh's moral character seems to be a bit off for a perfect being. Regardless of exactly how the fall occurred the eternal punishment can only, according to scripture, be enacted by one being which is God.
Yahweh CHOSE to create Hell and he CHOSE to make the punishment for sin separation and he CHOSE to make man the way he did. If someone invented a weapon and it was then taken over by a dictator who used it to rule the world we would probably not fault the inventor if he did not know.
Yahweh however knowing all things is more responsible than any inventor could ever be. Let's say it was inevitable that most of mankind would suffer eternally and let's say it was somehow out of Yahweh's control. Then Yahweh's moral choice would have been to never create man. You can slice it all sorts of ways but it still falls back to his responsibility. This is of course if the Yahweh was real etc.
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December 12, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Luckily for Yahweh he doesn't exist, otherwise he'd be a real piece of shit.
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December 13, 2011 at 5:21 am
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December 13, 2011 at 6:53 am
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Gentlemen,
The “fall” or in other words “The imperfect creation myth” is universal.
Gods did fashion men through trial and error.
But you were taught that myths are fairy tales. No?
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December 13, 2011 at 8:49 am
(December 13, 2011 at 6:53 am)dtango Wrote: But you were taught that myths are fairy tales. No?
No.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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December 13, 2011 at 9:57 am
(December 13, 2011 at 8:49 am)Faith No More Wrote: No. .
Antiquated beliefs indispensable in abolishing contemporary beliefs.
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
December 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm
tackattack the fact that you do not believe in eternal torment is part of the reason why many of the issues probably don't bother you. I agree that if in the end we are all "redeemed" if you will then a lot of the problems with God, at least from a moral standpoint IF he were real, would be solved.
I am curious about what you think on a certain issue though. If there is no Hell/eternal torment is there any punishment for ignoring God/not giving him worship? If there is no punishment for it why exactly should we concern ourselves with what God wants for our lives? Why not just live in a peaceful manner and enjoy the life we have here?
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