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Deesse23 · June 27, 2023 at 9:10 am

Wtf is this guy doing here?

He should be all over variuos universities, science labs, etc, telling all the paleontologists, biologists, historians, archaeologists, etc. that they are complete morons. Why is he instead trolling...nevermind.

~~R-Farmer~~ · June 27, 2023 at 9:33 am

(June 27, 2023 at 8:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 8:24 am)R-Farmer Wrote: Joe rogan experience/pod cast and I point out he had a published peer reviewed geologist on the show who was providing evidence for a world wide flood.

In this show that you mention the guests were Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock none of which have education or credentials in geology. Both Hancock and Carlson admitted that their views on ancient history (human and geological) are shaped by psychedelic drugs.

So you are lying again.

There is a tweet Joe rogan made that kicked off this whole thing. The how, and why he went down this rabbit hole of a world wide flood. (according to the article that cites and screen shots the actual tweet Rogan made.)

"Rogan linked to a story from several days before about scientists who reported finding more water deep inside Earth than exists on the surface of the planet. The massive supply of water is 400 miles down, so “it’s not exactly accessible,” the report from Unilad said.

The scientists who made the discovery in 2014 said this huge ocean of water is locked inside a layer of Earth’s crust that is made up of a rock called “ringwoodite.”According to Northwestern University geophysicist Steve Jacobsen, who was part of the team that discovered the presence of the water, “the ringwoodite is like a sponge, soaking up water. There is something very special about the crystal structure of ringwoodite that allows it to attract hydrogen and trap water.”
“This mineral can contain a lot of water under conditions of the deep mantle,” Jacobsen added.
“Geological processes on the Earth’s surface, such as earthquakes or erupting volcanoes, are an expression of what is going on inside the Earth, out of our sight,” he explained. “I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades.”

If you want the actual linked citation PM me.

And also the guys You are referring to, have a different reason as to why the world was flooded.. (magnetic pole reversal)

Also are you lying when you said I lied? or did you make a mistake due to negligence, not fully understanding the subject before you went off the rails on your crazy train?

if you have been proven to be this inept at discerning the subject matter here, then would it not stand to reason that perhaps you screwed up somewhere else as well? and again is your ineptitude considered a mistake or a lie? Why are your lies considered mistakes but if I were to make one it would be a lie?

Also where is it you think I lied/made a mistake before?

~~R-Farmer~~ · June 27, 2023 at 9:58 am

(June 27, 2023 at 9:02 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 8:14 am)R-Farmer Wrote: My father was a bigamist. (would not divorce my mother, but kept a side piece that 'we' think she fathered a loser son for him drugs prison etc, even today. he kept her on the side till he died in 2019) So not really a religious person growing up.

My mother was but did not speak English very well, so she went to a church that spoke her language, and in her culture children of mixed race were not accepted in the 70s and 80s. So we were not allowed in the church building durning church service. My sister and I generally stay out and played on the play ground till we were old enough to refuse to go. (They did not have an English speaking children's program.)

My father would not allow us to go to any other church with friends in the 70s and 80s. The mistress found a very progressive church and my father made us all go including my mother (she had to quit her church to do this) So my mom my dad his side piece and 3 kids (not the side piece loser son) all went to this progressive church for a few months.. Then people started asking questions and Side piece became our 'aunt.' I forgot how they found out that she was not related and My dad just had us all quit. didn't set foot in a church from about the 6th grade till my mid 20s.

so no, no particular church no specific denomination. Maybe that's why The church I did go to was a non denominational church, and when I moved out into the country I just started going and supporting the local baptist church. As again I see a clear line between the religious aspect of worship and having an active relationship with God. This allows me the freedom to go into any Jesus Christ centered church and worship God one on one, and not resign my beliefs over to denominationally specific practices. Which is how and why I do not have to accept or teach YEC principles nor subscribe to the accept Ark narrative that most baptists do.

Your father was not a bigamist. He was a cheater. He didn't have two wives.

they were married by some douche bag shaman on a cruise they took together with 1/2 a dozen of their friends. (He wore a wedding ring for her and my mom) Which he was married to first by a judge. We found this out because my mother legally had the rights to his full estate even though he made 'Auntie side piece' the executor of his will and was claiming to the doctors to be his wife. He went in for by pass surgery, and every decision about his care went through her. we were not even allowed to see him unless she put us on the list. Hell of a way to find something like this out.

Quote:What else don't you understand?

why this is so important to you. why you feel the need to interject your understanding of what my family went through in a way to try and 'correct' a life experience I shared. Then to be nasty on top of it all. I don't understand any of that.

**Mister Agenda** · June 27, 2023 at 9:59 am

Atheists are notorious for being grammar nazis. Don't take it personally.

**arewethereyet** · June 27, 2023 at 10:11 am

(June 27, 2023 at 9:58 am)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 9:02 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Your father was not a bigamist. He was a cheater. He didn't have two wives.

they were married by some douche bag shaman on a cruise they took together with 1/2 a dozen of their friends. (He wore a wedding ring for her and my mom) Which he was married to first by a judge. We found this out because my mother legally had the rights to his full estate even though he made 'Auntie side piece' the executor of his will and was claiming to the doctors to be his wife. He went in for by pass surgery, and every decision about his care went through her. we were not even allowed to see him unless she put us on the list. Hell of a way to find something like this out.

Quote:What else don't you understand?
why this is so important to you. why you feel the need to interject your understanding of what my family went through in a way to try and 'correct' a life experience I shared. Then to be nasty on top of it all. I don't understand any of that.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Poor boy had a philandering father.

Is god doing better by you than daddy did?

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: June 27, 2023 at 10:18 am by The Grand Nudger.)

(June 27, 2023 at 8:42 am)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 26, 2023 at 4:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Correct, religion can be whatever it wants to be. What have you done, as a man? Do you think this flood bullshit might be indicative of your fanatical dedication to a non deity?
Religion is a system the requires blind adherence to the rules and precepts with in.

I have presented anon religious logistical theory on how a limited space ark could possible house 100s of thousand more lives than the standard religious narrative. So No I have not blindly accepted the religious narrative. Then on the scientific said no part of the ark narrative is allowed or accepted.

So again I don't blindly follow any one or anything. Could this be considered fanatism by someone on the outside looking in? Sure, why not?
As is often the case One man's fanatical behavior is another man's simple belief.

That's not what this looks like from the outside looking in. From here, it looks like you're so wedded to the idea of the big boat that you've decided to ignore literally every relevant fact about every relevant thing in order to maintain a belief that is simultaneously absurd and trivial.

Quote:
Quote:Do you think that your religion could be improved by cutting that sort of shit out?

What is it doing, anyway, to require such a doomed defense?

the religious aspect? yes. The relationship with god aspect? no.

You think god wouldn't like you as much if you didn't believe a borrowed fairy tale someone snuck into his magic book? Wherein some asshole accused him of a xenocide he never committed?

**The Grand Nudger** · June 27, 2023 at 10:25 am

(June 27, 2023 at 10:11 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 9:58 am)R-Farmer Wrote: they were married by some douche bag shaman on a cruise they took together with 1/2 a dozen of their friends. (He wore a wedding ring for her and my mom) Which he was married to first by a judge. We found this out because my mother legally had the rights to his full estate even though he made 'Auntie side piece' the executor of his will and was claiming to the doctors to be his wife. He went in for by pass surgery, and every decision about his care went through her. we were not even allowed to see him unless she put us on the list. Hell of a way to find something like this out.

why this is so important to you. why you feel the need to interject your understanding of what my family went through in a way to try and 'correct' a life experience I shared. Then to be nasty on top of it all. I don't understand any of that.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Poor boy had a philandering father.

Is god doing better by you than daddy did?

Sounds like dad was living a perfectly biblical lifestyle. What's the problem, right?

~~R-Farmer~~ · June 27, 2023 at 10:46 am

(June 27, 2023 at 10:11 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 9:58 am)R-Farmer Wrote: they were married by some douche bag shaman on a cruise they took together with 1/2 a dozen of their friends. (He wore a wedding ring for her and my mom) Which he was married to first by a judge. We found this out because my mother legally had the rights to his full estate even though he made 'Auntie side piece' the executor of his will and was claiming to the doctors to be his wife. He went in for by pass surgery, and every decision about his care went through her. we were not even allowed to see him unless she put us on the list. Hell of a way to find something like this out.

why this is so important to you. why you feel the need to interject your understanding of what my family went through in a way to try and 'correct' a life experience I shared. Then to be nasty on top of it all. I don't understand any of that.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Poor boy had a philandering father.

what do you mean? My dad was a good father.. just not a traditional one.

I was asked if I went to church as a child. I did not, and my father's life style was the reason why he did not go, and if he didn't have to go I wasn't going to go either..

For me growing up we did not know any better.
It wasn't a good thing or a bad thing. it just was.. We found out later in life and we were angry for a while but ultimately This effected my mother more than us, and she chose to forgive him and stay. She saw how auntie side piece help and supported my dad in a traditional white, English speaking, culturally adept way, and she was ok with that as she did not want to do all of the social functions anyway. Plus in her culture the husband generally has a wife and a concubine. where the wife is head of the house hold and the concubine "concubined"

I tried to explain this to my wife but she wasn't having it..

Anomalocaris · June 27, 2023 at 10:50 am

If R-farmer is not the one and the same as the one time resident case study in theistic social and intellectual maladjustment Drich, then R-farmer must have won the exact same lotteries of confident ignorance, ridiculous pretension, moronic overreach, and pitiful propensity to tell bullshit personal sob stories out of confusion between sympathy and credence as Drich.

**brewer** · June 27, 2023 at 11:06 am

(June 27, 2023 at 8:53 am)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 27, 2023 at 8:29 am)brewer Wrote: From what you're saying you were indoctrinated as a child (in some form).
indeed. I went full atheist after that progressive church experience was over.. So from about grade 6 forward my beliefs about god and the world matched my dad's world view. Which meant I could justify anything I wanted to do so long as it didn't hurt no one. Just like he did. Which is probably why I spent the next 10 years of Sundays doing whatever he did.

Quote:Got it. A kind of cafeteria belief, you (not god) get to pick and choose. Not realy the word of god but your own particular conception.
yes my father knew enough bible to use it to justify whatever he did, and I picked this up as well.

Quote:Why do you need to "go into any Jesus Christ centered church and worship God one on one"?
I don't need to go to church at all. I can literally do whatever I want. But the point of worship is not about you/me. It's about bringing glory to god. which is just easier in a Jesus Christ centered church.

Quote:Can't you do that on your own? If your still attending any church you're particapating in groupthink.

I go to church to help those who go to the church who are in need. again going to church is not about what I get out of it it is about giving to others.

OK, but, then why are you here? Why do you need to argue with atheists and want validation for your belief(s)? You are certainly not giving to us (atheists) and we are certainly not in need. Kind of against what you profess to be.

I suggest that you let us be us and you be you and move on.

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