(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It's not MY theory. There are multiple proofs and references for what I said. Multiple. I will post them, and YOU will be the cause of the scandal.

You're bringing up Robert Spencer? are you out of your damn mind ? This guy is an outspoken anti-Muslim who founded an islamophobic group with a far-right extremist. Please bring actual info from actual scholars of Islam who aren't far-right, thanks.

(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact you are totally ignorant of the history of Islam is of no import. Totally utterly ignorant. 

Bro, I'm not the one taking my knowledge of Islam from a full-blown anti-Msulim. This is the internet, just google Islam and click on websites that aren't Robert Spencer's.

(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact is, Muhammad never existed. 

Yeah, you really are out of your mind.

(July 8, 2023 at 5:43 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:

(July 8, 2023 at 5:36 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Just a technical question.  If I were to become a suicide bomber and martyr myself for Allah, would I get to choose the 72 honies or would it be pot luck?

In principle you'll go to hell because suicide isn't allowed in Islam. That being said, no one really knows your fate besides Allah if you do this sort of thing.

Okay. Followup question. Supposing I martyr myself without committing suicide, would I get male virgins, female virgins, or some of both?

(July 8, 2023 at 6:35 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:

(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It's not MY theory. There are multiple proofs and references for what I said. Multiple. I will post them, and YOU will be the cause of the scandal.

You're bringing up Robert Spencer? are you out of your damn mind ? This guy is an outspoken anti-Muslim who founded an islamophobic group with a far-right extremist. Please bring actual info from actual scholars of Islam who aren't far-right, thanks.

(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact you are totally ignorant of the history of Islam is of no import. Totally utterly ignorant. 

Bro, I'm not the one taking my knowledge of Islam from a full-blown anti-Msulim. This is the internet, just google Islam and click on websites that aren't Robert Spencer's.

(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact is, Muhammad never existed. 

Yeah, you really are out of your mind.

Calling him an anti-Muslim proves nothing. Refute his history WITH FACTS or STFU.
Telling someone they are out of their mind just shows how ignorant, weak, and unprepared you are.
Go back to mommy and learn something.

(July 8, 2023 at 7:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(July 8, 2023 at 5:43 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: In principle you'll go to hell because suicide isn't allowed in Islam. That being said, no one really knows your fate besides Allah if you do this sort of thing.

Okay.  Followup question.  Supposing I martyr myself without committing suicide, would I get male virgins, female virgins, or some of both?

Sorry, it's not virgins. It's a mistranslation of the word for grapes. Grapes in paradise. 

"The Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get 'hur,' and the word was taken by early commentators to mean 'virgins,' hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant 'white' and was commonly used to mean 'white grapes' ".

(July 8, 2023 at 5:18 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Hello members of the forum

I write this thread for honest atheists who are willing to reconsider their position. Islam settled the issue of doubting God a very long time ago. God's existence is self-evident in his creation and the beauty of the world.

14:10 / Their messengers asked ˹them˺, “Is there any doubt about Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth? He is inviting you in order to forgive your sins, and delay your end until your appointed term.”

That's it, that's how much it takes in the Qur'an to deal with atheism once and for all: not discussing what is self-evident, because it would be less than self-evident, and it isn't. There is no doubt about God or Allah, because the Earth and everything else require an originator. Atheists are fooling themselves, existence can't be explained by dumb luck.

Thank your for reading. May God bless you and lead you to the right path.

Cheers

You lie.

(July 8, 2023 at 5:18 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Hello members of the forum

I write this thread for honest atheists who are willing to reconsider their position. Islam settled the issue of doubting God a very long time ago. God's existence is self-evident in his creation and the beauty of the world.

14:10 / Their messengers asked ˹them˺, “Is there any doubt about Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth? He is inviting you in order to forgive your sins, and delay your end until your appointed term.”

That's it, that's how much it takes in the Qur'an to deal with atheism once and for all: not discussing what is self-evident, because it would be less than self-evident, and it isn't. There is no doubt about God or Allah, because the Earth and everything else require an originator. Atheists are fooling themselves, existence can't be explained by dumb luck.

Thank your for reading. May God bless you and lead you to the right path.

Cheers

Yes dear. Whatever you say. 
Now run along outside and play.

(July 8, 2023 at 5:45 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:

(July 8, 2023 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If I were to convert to Islam, would I have to supply my own sword for hand-chopping, or will one be provided?

Boru

You're obviously not being serious, that's a bad start

That’s the least bad start one could have to so abysmal a journey as to become a theist.   Every other start would be worse.

(July 8, 2023 at 5:18 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Hello members of the forum

I write this thread for honest atheists who are willing to reconsider their position. Islam settled the issue of doubting God a very long time ago. God's existence is self-evident in his creation and the beauty of the world.

14:10 / Their messengers asked ˹them˺, “Is there any doubt about Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth? He is inviting you in order to forgive your sins, and delay your end until your appointed term.”

That's just a quotation from a book.  It isn't evidence that's up to my standards - by the same token, the Lord of the Rings trilogy is evidence for the existence of elves, orcs, and Frodo Baggins.

Do you have any empirical, testable, falsifiable evidence to indicate that your god actually exists?  Unless you do, you have nothing that I want or value.

(July 8, 2023 at 5:18 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Hello members of the forum

I write this thread for honest atheists who are willing to reconsider their position. Islam settled the issue of doubting God a very long time ago. God's existence is self-evident in his creation and the beauty of the world.

14:10 / Their messengers asked ˹them˺, “Is there any doubt about Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth? He is inviting you in order to forgive your sins, and delay your end until your appointed term.”

That's it, that's how much it takes in the Qur'an to deal with atheism once and for all: not discussing what is self-evident, because it would be less than self-evident, and it isn't. There is no doubt about God or Allah, because the Earth and everything else require an originator. Atheists are fooling themselves, existence can't be explained by dumb luck.

Thank your for reading. May God bless you and lead you to the right path.

Cheers

Christians use this same "Intellegant Design" strawman to "prove" their god. Fact of the matter is, if your pedo ULLAH created me, show the results of the experiment that proves it? Becuase a verse from a book written centures ago based on someone's dreams/hallucinations isn't proof. That's like me saying hey the Power Rangers are real, here is my proof.

Go Go Power Rangers #1: Zordon Reqested 5 teenagers with attitude to become the world's 1st Power Rangers to defend the earth from destruction.

Don't you see, the world is still here therefore the Power Rangers are real.

What is it about these books that were written by people having fever dreams that have people believeing it. Seriously Gays, Trans, Atheists, Metalheads literally have to hide who they are in Islamic countries otherwise they'd be murdered. MURDERED. Yet your "God" and relegion is seen by people like you as GOOD and REAL?! GO FUCK YOURSELF!