(July 13, 2023 at 4:29 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 12, 2023 at 9:58 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: The very same "gods" were described across multiple cultures all over the planet. You can find endless examples of gods that went by one name in one culture and by another name (in some cases an extremely similar name) in another culture.
I'm open to the idea that these beings helped advance human civilization.
Historical evidence suggests that multiple ancient cultures had advanced scientific knowledge rivaling (and in many cases exceeding) our modern scientific knowledge. I'm open to the idea that this was all thanks to these beings.
I'm open to the idea that these beings have been on our planet for thousands of years and have been documented by ancient cultures for as long as they've had a writing system.

I want to know what you guys think about the degree to which we can draw conclusions from the available historical records. I also want to know if it can be said that the historical evidence points to Hindu Atheism being a rational position to take.


The enormous collection of Vedic texts taken to be historical (as opposed to the purely mythological ones) seem to do a great job of telling the stories of these beings. These texts also do a great job of making highly quantitatively specific scientific claims that have been shown to be miraculously correct in modern times. 

Isn't there a vanishingly small probability of getting those measurements correct to such a fine level of precision by merely guessing?

Also, who prompted them to even make such guesses? 

Why were ancient people even talking about their home as a planet (by the way, Hindu scriptures correctly described Earth as a sphere) and talking about how old the planet is?

The flying machines that Hindu deities were said to have had are what really gets me. Sounds just like the UAPs we're seeing in recent years. The machines were described as being able to move in any direction while still facing in the same direction, like a helicopter. This is exactly like the UAPs that get described nowadays

Don't let your mind be so open that your brain falls out. A much more plausible explanation is that our ancestors weren't the dummies you think they were.

Boru

(July 13, 2023 at 7:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I often wonder why people include the Egyptian pyramids in this ‘ancient aliens’ rubbish. Pyramids are the easiest structures to build, they’re inherently stable, and they were built long before Issac Newton invented gravity so the stones would have been easy to move about. No aliens needed.

Boru

(July 15, 2023 at 8:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's always fun wondering where the fool ends and the charlatan begins.

(July 14, 2023 at 8:33 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: How do we feel about Billy Carson? Is he a grifter, too?

He's a con-man who has lied for money, and he changed his name to distance himself from felonies he committed in his past. 

That being said, I'm curious as to whether or not he believes what he says about ancient Earth and extraterrestrials. I'm also curious about specific examples of his arguments failing to hold water.