It’s either legit, or a medieval confabulation…but even if it were the later date, just like the physical artifacts, that’s still earlier than the 1800s.

It's a rare culture that doesn't have a golden age myth.

I got the following from some random site; take it for what you will. I'm having trouble locating exact verses within the Agastya Samhita

अणेन जलभगोस्ती प्रणोदनेशू वायूषू |

एवं शतना कुंभना संयोगहा कार्यक्ृटसमृताहा ||

Translation: If we use the power of 100 earthen pots on water, then water will change its form into life-giving oxygen and floating hydrogen.


वायुबन्धकवस्त्रेणनिबद्धो यानमस्तके उदनःस्वलघुत्वे बिभर्त्याकाशयानकम्

Translation: If hydrogen is contained in an air tight cloth, it can be used in aerodynamics, i.e. it will fly in air.

The process of air proofing a balloon bag is described as follows:

Dip a silk bag in the bark of trees which produces milky juice (rubber), dry and dip it in the juice of another tree that produces tannin. Dry it again and coat it first with wax and then with mixture of lime and sugar.

Also, I'm happy to admit I've been wrong about the Tic Tac UFO and I feel like my whole life is a lie now

(July 17, 2023 at 9:03 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: I got the following from some random site; take it for what you will. I'm having trouble locating exact verses within the Agastya Samhita

अणेन  जलभगोस्ती  प्रणोदनेशू  वायूषू |

एवं  शतना  कुंभना  संयोगहा  कार्यक्ृटसमृताहा ||

Translation: If we use the power of 100 earthen pots on water, then water will change its form into life-giving oxygen and floating hydrogen.


वायुबन्धकवस्त्रेणनिबद्धो  यानमस्तके  उदनःस्वलघुत्वे  बिभर्त्याकाशयानकम्

Translation: If hydrogen is contained in an air tight cloth, it can be used in aerodynamics, i.e. it will fly in air.

The process of air proofing a balloon bag is described as follows:

Dip a silk bag in the bark of trees which produces milky juice (rubber), dry and dip it in the juice of another tree that produces tannin. Dry it again and coat it first with wax and then with mixture of lime and sugar.

Also, I'm happy to admit I've been wrong about the Tic Tac UFO and I feel like my whole life is a lie now

Really, prey tell how you come to believe some ancient text could actually refer to oxygen and hydrogen?

(July 17, 2023 at 3:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It's a rare culture that doesn't have a golden age myth.

In most cultures the Golden age myth is an institution that allows old farts who was never any good in their own youth and whose mental facilities have since further slipped to continue to browbeat younger, more energetic generation who otherwise would not take their shit.

By glorifying the mythical past, the older generation prevents rise of newer institutions dominated by the younger that would sideline the older generation.   The older, the closer to the old glory.

(July 17, 2023 at 9:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 17, 2023 at 9:03 pm)Sicnoo0 Wrote: I got the following from some random site; take it for what you will. I'm having trouble locating exact verses within the Agastya Samhita

अणेन  जलभगोस्ती  प्रणोदनेशू  वायूषू |

एवं  शतना  कुंभना  संयोगहा  कार्यक्ृटसमृताहा ||

Translation: If we use the power of 100 earthen pots on water, then water will change its form into life-giving oxygen and floating hydrogen.


वायुबन्धकवस्त्रेणनिबद्धो  यानमस्तके  उदनःस्वलघुत्वे  बिभर्त्याकाशयानकम्

Translation: If hydrogen is contained in an air tight cloth, it can be used in aerodynamics, i.e. it will fly in air.

The process of air proofing a balloon bag is described as follows:

Dip a silk bag in the bark of trees which produces milky juice (rubber), dry and dip it in the juice of another tree that produces tannin. Dry it again and coat it first with wax and then with mixture of lime and sugar.

Also, I'm happy to admit I've been wrong about the Tic Tac UFO and I feel like my whole life is a lie now

Really, prey tell how you come to believe some ancient text could actually refer to oxygen and hydrogen?

For whatever reason, oxygen and hydrogen seem to be the accepted translations of pranavayu and udanavayu 
I'm not the one claiming they were talking about oxygen and hydrogen; the translations are ripped directly from the website.
Any time I look this up, every source seems to agree that one can confidently surmise that - in the greater context of the Agastya Samhita - it definitely seems they were describing oxygen and hydrogen

They knew pranavayu to be a life-giving gas and udanavayu to be a floating gas

Were they oxygen and hydrogen in the modern sense, with atomic numbers included? No. I guess in some sense they weren't referring to oxygen and hydrogen. Instead, we could say they were referring to a vital life-giving gas that we breathe in as well as a floating gas that can be used in balloons

More that they were referring to something we would refer to that way. Like I mentioned before, the literal translation for what we translate as copper sulfate solution is "peacocks neck". The same is true of oxygen and hydrogen. They're all descriptive, not technical or informative. The peacock thing? It's the color of the solution.

The whole text is a pretty typical med alchemists treatise, which is what researchers think it actually is, simply attributed to a character in older myths. 12th century ace. Still cool - but not cool enough, or?

(July 17, 2023 at 10:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: More that they were referring to something we would refer to that way.  Like I mentioned before, the literal translation for what we translate as copper sulfate solution is "peacocks neck".  The same is true of oxygen and hydrogen.  They're all descriptive, not technical or informative.  The peacock thing?  It's the color of the solution.  

The whole text is a pretty typical med alchemists treatise, which is what researchers think it actually is, simply attributed to a character in older myths.  12th century ace.  Still cool - but not cool enough, or?

Nothing is as cool as ancient aliens with zero-point energy that can travel intergalactically and were the basis for a shit ton of religious texts

Hence my motivated reasoning and my blindness to it

Well, I can confidently state that the text in question has nothing to do with aliens or zero point energy. It's not even ancient. It's still older than the official date of discovery, and the batteries it describes are even older than the text, which is to say that the narrator could not have been the inventor....though they're still probably this side of the bce ace divide.

(July 17, 2023 at 10:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Well, I can confidently state that the text in question has nothing to do with aliens or zero point energy.  It's not even ancient.  It's still older than the official date of discovery, and the batteries it describes are even older than the text, though still probably this side of the bce ace divide.

I'm just explaining the origin of my curiosity about ancient aliens in general.

If someone tells me that there used to be ancient aliens with zero-point energy who genetically engineered us and whom we worshipped as gods, I'm instantly intrigued