(July 30, 2023 at 1:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There aren't enough ancient Greeks in Texas for me to bother to master the language.

You don't learn Ancient Greek so that you could speak it with somebody. You learn it so you can study the Bible in its original language. You want to disprove Christianity, right? Well, you probably need to do some Bible study to do that.

(July 30, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There aren't enough ancient Greeks in Texas for me to bother to master the language.

You don't learn Ancient Greek so that you could speak it with somebody. You learn it so you can study the Bible in its original language. You want to disprove Christianity, right? Well, you probably need to do some Bible study to do that.

You really don’t. It helps, but it isn’t necessary.

Boru

(July 30, 2023 at 1:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:32 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: OK, what exactly should I type into Google?

Jaysus. Try ‘revelation 20:4 original Greek’.

Boru

Now I am even more confused. The original Greek has the word ἔτη, which is the nominative, accusative and vocative plural of ἔτος (year). So, why didn't Jerome simply translate it as "annos", which is the accusative plural, but instead chose "annis"?

(July 30, 2023 at 1:43 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Jaysus. Try ‘revelation 20:4 original Greek’.

Boru

Now I am even more confused. The original Greek has the word ἔτη, which is the nominative, accusative and vocative plural of ἔτος (year). So, why didn't Jerome simply translate it as "annos", which is the accusative plural, but instead chose "annis"?

I don’t know. I don’t care. Maybe it was meant to be an infarcative gerund.

Boru

(July 30, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There aren't enough ancient Greeks in Texas for me to bother to master the language.

You don't learn Ancient Greek so that you could speak it with somebody. You learn it so you can study the Bible in its original language. You want to disprove Christianity, right? Well, you probably need to do some Bible study to do that.

Not really. You need to learn from a real scholar what the hundreds of books of revelation were all about, and what's up with this one. 
Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton. A real scholar. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-reoYHKUw

(July 30, 2023 at 1:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:43 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Now I am even more confused. The original Greek has the word ἔτη, which is the nominative, accusative and vocative plural of ἔτος (year). So, why didn't Jerome simply translate it as "annos", which is the accusative plural, but instead chose "annis"?

I don’t know. I don’t care. Maybe it was meant to be an infarcative gerund.

Boru

Gerund of... which verb? Gerund is a noun made from a verb, the "-ing" nouns in English.

Dine at a Greek restaurant. Maybe the staff will know something.

(July 30, 2023 at 1:51 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: You don't learn Ancient Greek so that you could speak it with somebody. You learn it so you can study the Bible in its original language. You want to disprove Christianity, right? Well, you probably need to do some Bible study to do that.

Not really. You need to learn from a real scholar what the hundreds of books of revelation were all about, and what's up with this one. 
Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton. A real scholar. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-reoYHKUw

Really? You think I should listen to an hour-and-a-half long video in a foreign language (English) without subtitles?

(July 30, 2023 at 1:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 30, 2023 at 1:36 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: You don't learn Ancient Greek so that you could speak it with somebody. You learn it so you can study the Bible in its original language. You want to disprove Christianity, right? Well, you probably need to do some Bible study to do that.

You really don’t. It helps, but it isn’t necessary.

Boru

Studying the Bible isn't necessary to disprove Christianity?