(August 18, 2023 at 7:59 pm)Barry Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 7:56 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Priest didn't discover the big bang, he just named it after reading Einstein's work.


Why wouldn't we reach the present time? The universe always existed in some form, but it changes.

Hi Fake
Let’s agree to disagree, we seem to be infinitely apart. Life will go on. I’m going to watch 2 grandkids play basketball. 
Life is good. 
Cheers Barry

Were they lucky enough to not be molested by your priests ? Was that God's grace ?

(August 18, 2023 at 6:53 pm)Barry Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 6:25 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: You keep insisting the world "existed from nothing" without demonstrating that initial condition was true.  At a minimum, the violation of energy conservation going from nothing to something requires an explanation.

God is the explanation. Let’s agree to disagree.  Cheers Barry

Gawd is no explanation of fucking anything.

The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to FSM, despite knowing in their hearts FSM exists.

(August 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 7:36 pm)Barry Wrote: Haha
Cheers Barry

No ‘haha’. It’s a legitimate question. 

Boru

To which you'll never get a legitimate answer.

(August 18, 2023 at 8:06 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 6:53 pm)Barry Wrote: God is the explanation. Let’s agree to disagree.  Cheers Barry

Gawd is no explanation of fucking anything.

Nothing came from nothing. Read the Big Bang Theory. 
Nothing is at "high density" and "high temperature". 
Something was at high temperature and high density. 
Did they drop you on your head as a baby ? 
No one says something came from nothing. 

Pray a rosary for the intelligence to read the theory.

(August 18, 2023 at 8:02 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists. 

Holy fuck, but I get tired of hearing this from every smarmy, self-righteous christer nut-job that shoves their nose in here.

How 'bout you offer up some actual, testable, verifiable evidence for your gawd and shove your canned spam right up your ass, sideways if it'll fit.

Hi Raven
Thanks for your learned comments. Theists are invited to this forum. Perhaps you are on the wrong one. 
I’m just saying God created the world. What is your view? Did the universe just happen from nothing? Is that evidence based? 
The burden of proof is not just on me. 
Educate me. Tell me. 
God Bless Barry

(August 18, 2023 at 8:09 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 8:06 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Gawd is no explanation of fucking anything.

Nothing came from nothing. Read the Big Bang Theory. 
Nothing is at "high density" and "high temperature". 
Something was at high temperature and high density. 
Did they drop you on your head as a baby ? 
No one says something came from nothing. 

Pray a rosary for the intelligence to read the theory.

Hi again friend, 
Not if I’m talking to Bucky or Raven, I love you both 
Is “no explanation” an “explanation”. 
What caused the Big Bang? The FSM?
Cheers Barry

(August 18, 2023 at 8:12 pm)Barry Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 8:02 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Holy fuck, but I get tired of hearing this from every smarmy, self-righteous christer nut-job that shoves their nose in here.

How 'bout you offer up some actual, testable, verifiable evidence for your gawd and shove your canned spam right up your ass, sideways if it'll fit.

Hi Raven
Thanks for your learned comments. Theists are invited to this forum. Perhaps you are on the wrong one. 
I’m just saying God created the world. What is your view? Did the universe just happen from nothing? Is that evidence based? 
The burden of proof is not just on me. 
Educate me. Tell me. 
God Bless Barry

You can say anything you want. You have to provide evidence. You have failed. Totally. 
You are responsible for your education, and if you are really a grandfather, you're about 50 years behind. 
What have you done to educate YOURSELF ? 

So far, all you have done is repeat the oft repeated fallacy of the "argument from personal incredulity". 
It's a fail. Total fail. 
Is this the best you can do ? 
You are dismissed. 
Buh bye.

You're still here ? I thought you were going to watch basketball ?
LIAR

"“By grace you have been saved through faith; and not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Ephesians 2 : 8-9. You should read your Bible once in a while.

Here is a book you should read ... a Jesuit who talks about the scandal you are creating here : https://www.amazon.com/How-Share-Your-Fa...1888992301
You need to go to confession.

(August 18, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Barry Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 7:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m still waiting for the argument about ‘good’ existing…

Boru

Hi Bri
Is that a typo? 
If so it’s a “good” one. 
Good Bless
Barry

Your typo, not mine. Read the title of this thread.

Boru

(August 18, 2023 at 8:18 pm)Barry Wrote:

(August 18, 2023 at 8:09 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Nothing came from nothing. Read the Big Bang Theory. 
Nothing is at "high density" and "high temperature". 
Something was at high temperature and high density. 
Did they drop you on your head as a baby ? 
No one says something came from nothing. 

Pray a rosary for the intelligence to read the theory.

Hi again friend, 
Not if I’m talking to Bucky or Raven, I love you both 
Is “no explanation” an “explanation”. 
What caused the Big Bang? The FSM?
Cheers Barry

The universe already existed. . 
I don't know, and you don't know. The "bang" was the expansionary phase. 
I'm mature enough to accept "we don't know yet". 
If your maturity extends only to "but why mommy, I need an answer now", then no one can help you. 
You don't know us, so "loving us" is a cheap fake version of "love". 
Read Bonhoeffer's "Cheap Grace". (The Cost Of Discipleship). 
You're a fraud and a scandalous uneducated fraud.
Can't Jesus send in someone who has an education ?