And all it cost was the average annual income for 16 000 Indians.

Boru

(August 23, 2023 at 1:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And all it cost was the average annual income for 16 000 Indians.

Boru

Interestingly, despite the factor 20 differences in average annual income amongst these three countries, the first Chinese lunar lander also cost ball park the average annual income of 15000 Chinese, and estimated cost of a NASA lander was also ball park the average annual income of 15000 Americans.

So the Indian lander cost 1/4 as much as the Chinese lander and 1/20 as much as a perspective NASA lander.

So if we are globally interested in exploring space for the benefit of all man kind at the least cost to mankind, and not just to thump nationalistic chests, we should subcontract space exploration to the Indians.

(August 23, 2023 at 3:30 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 23, 2023 at 1:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And all it cost was the average annual income for 16 000 Indians.

Boru

Interestingly, despite the factor 20 differences in average annual income amongst these three countries, the first Chinese lunar lander also cost ball park the average annual income of 15000 Chinese, and estimated cost of a NASA lander was also ball park the average annual income of 15000 Americans.

So the Indian lander cost 1/4 as much as the Chinese lander and 1/20 as much as a perspective NASA lander.

So if we are globally interested in exploring space for the benefit of all man kind at the least cost to mankind, and not just to thump nationalistic chests, we should subcontract space exploration to the Indians.

Too bad it’s really is just chest thumping, then.

Boru

(August 23, 2023 at 8:39 am)Nanny Wrote: Moon 2, India 1 all others 0.

Successful touchdown and loads of happy people on the live stream. Pure joy. (Modi's mug on the screen not withstanding).

The Russians lost FOUR landers.

Again, scores are for the 2023 season only. The Moon is up by 1.

The Soviet/Russian record of mission to beyond earth orbit had a few bright spots, but on the whole, the success rate had been abysmal.

The Soviet/Russian program attempted 20 separate missions to Mars between 1960 and 2011.    Almost half failed to leave earth orbit, only 5 made it to Martian orbit in a state fit to report back, and only 2 accomplished the main parts of the mission.

The last 4 Soviet/russian probes to Mars, starting with Phobos 1 and 2 of 1987, were consecutive failures.   2 failed after reaching Mars, 2 failed to leave earth orbit.

After failure of Phobos-Gunt to Mars in 2011, the Russians decided to aim lower and closer to home and try with Luna 25 of this month to revive their lunar program which  had been in hiatus since 1974.   It also failed.

This current failed mission is callled luna 25, and not luna 43, because although the Soviet Union/ Russia attempted a total of 43 lunar missions betweem 1959 and 2023, they would only admit to 25 because they thought they could cover up the existence of the other 18, which were total unmitigated failures that didn’t even reach earth orbit where it could be readily tracked by other powers.  Prior to the failed luna 25,  Russia would only give  the name and number to a lunar probe after the mission reached earth orbit to avoid having to explain missing numbers in the luna sequence and give their lunar exploration program the apparence of a higher success rate.      But of the 25 they had to admitted to and give a number in the Luna sequence, 15 failed after leaving low earth orbit but before achieving any of their mission objective near the moon, including this last Lunar 25,  giving a total of merely 10 successful missions out of 43 launched to the moon.

When you compare them to Russia’s heroic rate of no cigars, Indian, Israeli and Japanese failure to soft land on the moon on their first tries doesn’t look so bad.

(August 23, 2023 at 6:24 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(August 23, 2023 at 8:39 am)Nanny Wrote: Moon 2, India 1 all others 0.

Successful touchdown and loads of happy people on the live stream. Pure joy. (Modi's mug on the screen not withstanding).

The Russians lost FOUR landers.

If you look at it a different way, they probably gained hundreds if not thousands of landers.

A new space race is exciting.

Waiting for Muskrats Starship launch, could be as soom as the end of this month

(August 24, 2023 at 8:47 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Waiting for Muskrats Starship launch, could be as soom as the end of this month

He still hasn't cleaned up the wildlife refuge from his first rapid unscheduled disassembly.