(October 8, 2023 at 2:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(October 7, 2023 at 12:49 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Naturally, the GOP candidates who are happy to let Ukraine be overrun are full of support for Israel.

It's worth noting that, in many Evangelical circles, they support Israel specifically because they expect it to, in the words of Shea and Wilson, "immanetize the eschaton." Of course, they'll likely say it's more to bring about the Second Coming of Christ, but that's a distinction that doesn't really have much of a difference.

Too bad their beneficiaries in Israel remain largely ignorant (or choose to  ignore) what happens to them in Christian prophecy.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

(October 8, 2023 at 2:54 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(October 8, 2023 at 2:47 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Even your body rejects alien organs put in it, sometimes it dies even.

You know who else used this body analogy? ... Who described the Jews as "aliens to the german body"?

Other pieces of antisemite

Logical fallacy:

https://www.thoughtco.com/tu-quoque-logi...cy-1692568

Quote:Tu quoque is a type of ad hominem argument in which an accused person turns an allegation back on his or her accuser, thus creating a logical fallacy. In the English language, the phrase generally functions as a noun, however, it's also used attributively to modify other nouns, as in "a tu quoque argument."

(October 8, 2023 at 2:42 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Oh look, the village idiot of this forum found it necessary to remind every one that he's not only incredibly ignorant, but an antisemite too.

As if everybody did not already know what a repugnant piece of shit he is.

I bet 100€ he is more of a ghetto dweller than most Jews were 80 years ago.

It's not like anyone ever chooses to dwell in a ghetto.  The mere existence of a ghetto is an indictment of non-ghetto dwellers.

A sad aspect of humanity is when war stems from waving fairy tale books at one another.

(October 8, 2023 at 3:01 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(October 8, 2023 at 2:54 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: You know who else used this body analogy? ... Who described the Jews as "aliens to the german body"?

Other pieces of antisemite

Logical fallacy:

https://www.thoughtco.com/tu-quoque-logi...cy-1692568

Quote:Tu quoque is a type of ad hominem argument in which an accused person turns an allegation back on his or her accuser, thus creating a logical fallacy. In the English language, the phrase generally functions as a noun, however, it's also used attributively to modify other nouns, as in "a tu quoque argument."

You are even too stupid to know the fallacies you cite. You are criminally ignorant. If stupidity was illegal, you would be drawn and quartered.

You are using Nazi racist verbiage, and described an entire people as "ghetto dwellers", *********

When did you become an antisemite and racist? Was that part of the islamist package?

(October 8, 2023 at 2:47 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(October 8, 2023 at 2:36 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Lapo-Lapo killed Magellan, but he shares my background so I guess I'm a Magellan Killer.  Same logic.

It's not about culture or even religion.
It's about "placing an alien body between natural bodies".

Turns out the Hebrews were Canaanites all along.  Lived with their livestock among the olive trees and vineyards of the hill country to the north of Jerusalem, which became Samaria, and to the south, which became Judah. Some of the latter might have had an interlude in the Nile delta, but they're all, basically, from the West Bank.  At some point the tribes federated.  Rome did a number on them, but at no time where there zero Hebrews in Palestine.

(October 8, 2023 at 2:42 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Oh look, the village idiot of this forum found it necessary to remind every one that he's not only incredibly ignorant, but an antisemite too.

As if everybody did not already know what a repugnant piece of shit he is.

I bet 100€ he is more of a ghetto dweller than most Jews were 80 years ago.

But the allies in WW2 did use "Ghetto Jews" to combat Hitler, it's a historic fact:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ghettos_in_Europe

Christians brutalized Jews in Europe for centuries, when they became a problem they migrated them to the Middle East to get rid of them.

(October 8, 2023 at 3:16 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(October 8, 2023 at 2:47 pm)WinterHold Wrote: It's not about culture or even religion.
It's about "placing an alien body between natural bodies".

Turns out the Hebrews were Canaanites all along.  Lived with their livestock among the olive trees and vineyards of the hill country to the north of Jerusalem, which became Samaria, and to the south, which became Judah. Some of the latter might have had an interlude in the Nile delta, but they're all, basically, from the West Bank.  At some point the tribes federated.  Rome did a number on them, but at no time where there zero Hebrews in Palestine.

Before how much, 2000 years or more?

(October 8, 2023 at 3:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Christians brutalized Jews in Europe for centuries, when they became a problem they migrated them to the Middle East to get rid of them.

By "problem" you mean "refusing to die".  As for migrating them to the Middle East, the British holed them up on Cyprus for years because the Arabs were already beginning to flex their oil muscles.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_internment_camps

The 1960 film "Exodus" is quite educational on this matter.

(October 8, 2023 at 3:23 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(October 8, 2023 at 3:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Christians brutalized Jews in Europe for centuries, when they became a problem they migrated them to the Middle East to get rid of them.

By "problem" you mean "refusing to die".  As for migrating them to the Middle East, the British holed them up on Cyprus for years because the Arabs were already beginning to flex their oil muscles.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_internment_camps

The 1960 film "Exodus" is quite educational on this matter.

Europeans are extreme capitalists, you become a problem to them when you "cost them money".
Many European Jews costed European capitalists money, the wealthy Jews remained in Europe, but the poor were kicked out to either die in the desert or invade Palestinian homes and prosper.

It's all about the cash, Europe's support for a Jewish country in the Middle East is only to bring cash to the European governments.
Once Israel becomes an economic burden, they will get rid of it. Just like they did with hundreds of other countries and rulers.