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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 7:34 pm
(October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
So you just can't tolerate Jews.
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 7:35 pm
You know the solution.
Quote:1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
And Hamas will agree to throw down its weapons and surrender right?
Quote:2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
And Hamas will agree to disarm and hand over members who have committed war crimes right?
Quote:3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
And Hamas will pay war reparations to all its victims, right?
Quote:4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
Again will that include Hamas fighters and all the war crimes they committed right?
Quote:5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
We have already been over this Isreal is not a colony by any definition of that word and no they don't have to leave
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 7:36 pm
(October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?
You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
I would agree with most of that in principle (except for the destruction of the state of Israel).
I find it unsurprising, though, that you fail to include trying the Hamas killers for mass murder.
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 8:13 pm
(October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?
You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
Right now they can just waltz right through the Egyptian side, right? Right?
Quote:2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
That doesn't work because you define Tel Aviv and Haifa and Be'ersheva as part of Palestine.
Quote:3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
Minus accounts payable for the dead 1300 Israelis in the Negev.
Quote:4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
In what jurisdiction will these lawsuits be filed? Certainly not in Israeli courts because...
Quote:5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
Do you have ovens ready for the six million Jews who live in the "colony" ?
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 9:38 pm
(October 20, 2023 at 7:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
I would agree with most of that in principle (except for the destruction of the state of Israel).
I find it unsurprising, though, that you fail to include trying the Hamas killers for mass murder.
Boru
Nobody spoke about destruction; I spoke about "ending the colony of Israel since it is a relic belonging to the British Empire.
The colony refuses solutions, commit war crimes defying International Law:
https://peacemaker.un.org/middle-east-resolution242
Quote:Security Council Resolution 242: The Situation in the Middle East
Summary:
The resolution calls for the withdrawal of Israeli troops from the occupied territories, acknowledges the claim of sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the region and calls on the UN Secretary-General to appoint an Envoy to facilitate an acceptable solution to the conflict.
The U.S and the apartheid colony of Israel are taking Jews as human shields to protect them while breaking international law, Islamic law and even native law.
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 10:16 pm
Quote:Nobody spoke about destruction; I spoke about "ending the colony of Israel since it is a relic belonging to the British Empire.
Isreal is not a colony and no you can't end it.
Quote:The colony refuses solutions, commit war crimes defying International Law:
So does Hamas
Quote:The U.S and the apartheid colony of Israel are taking Jews as human shields to protect them while breaking international law, Islamic law and even native law.
Isreal is not a colony and Hamas has broken just about every law there is.
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 10:34 pm
(October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?
You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
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RE: Palestine
October 20, 2023 at 11:26 pm
Oh goodness, wouldn't want to break any islamic laws or native laws.
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RE: Palestine
October 21, 2023 at 1:03 am
(October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?
You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
1 and 2 sound good; 3 and 4 would be good if you made Hamas as accountable for their crimes as Israel; as for 5, well, Israel hasn’t been a colony since the Naqba, and how exactly do you propose to “end” it without committing genocide or ethnic cleansing?
Also, FF specified a solution that both sides would be willing to implement, and do you seriously think Israel would be willing to implement its own extinction?
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RE: Palestine
October 21, 2023 at 2:07 am
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(October 20, 2023 at 8:13 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You know the solution.
1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
Right now they can just waltz right through the Egyptian side, right? Right?
You're literally calling for the Forced Displacement of Palestinians ?
Wow..I'm surprised by the amount of cruelty.
Quote:Quote:2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
That doesn't work because you define Tel Aviv and Haifa and Be'ersheva as part of Palestine.
They are. Look at the map.
Quote:Quote:3-paying war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
Minus accounts payable for the dead 1300 Israelis in the Negev.
When destruction to Tel Aviv is at the same level of Gaza, then you have a case.
Otherwise it's genocide against civilians commit by Israel.
Quote:Quote:4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
In what jurisdiction will these lawsuits be filed? Certainly not in Israeli courts because...
The same courts that war criminals go to.
Quote:Quote:5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire
Do you have ovens ready for the six million Jews who live in the "colony" ?
Funny, I was gonna ask you the same. I mean the UN documented Israel's usage of White Phosphorus ammo.
Looks like Israel is trying to replicate the Holocaust again.
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