(October 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 2:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And, bear in mind, when they try that, it tends to end up like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTuCgFdO5L0

And if you can't watch it, just Google the words "Romanian orphnages."

You can't fix a lack of empathy.

I don’t even think you’d necessarily need empathy to look at the Romanian Orphanage example and see how bad it was. Just enough brain cells to rub together and ask “so, how are hundreds of thousands of kids living in conditions like this better than just letting women choose whether or not to bring their pregnancies to term? A higher number in the next census? More beings with a pulse?”

(October 29, 2023 at 10:48 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You can't fix a lack of empathy.

I don’t even think you’d necessarily need empathy to look at the Romanian Orphanage example and see how bad it was. Just enough brain cells to rub together and ask “so, how are hundreds of thousands of kids living in conditions like this better than just letting women choose whether or not to bring their pregnancies to term? A higher number in the next census? More beings with a pulse?”

You're asking them to have empathy.

(October 29, 2023 at 8:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:00 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Pro-choicers claim that human consciousness is physical. Burden of proof is on you.

You implied without evidence that the brain was a transceiver. I ask for evidence and you instead shift the burden of proof.

I didn't make a claim. I simply proposed a possible non-physicalist explanation.

(October 29, 2023 at 9:09 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 6:59 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: They can ask questions that you are supposed to answer.

Just like pro-choicers that are against 2nd amendment and support forced covid vaccination.

Are you claiming that there are conscious beings that are not alive?

But are the philosophers even qualified to answer some things?

They are qualified to ask questions that you are required to answer.

Quote:And where did the pro-choice people support forced vaccinations?

Plenty of them on reddit and twitter.

(October 29, 2023 at 12:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:11 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Sex can lead to pregnancy so women get pregnant voluntary.

1) Contraceptives often fail. The ensuing pregnancy is obviously not voluntary.

It's voluntary because women are aware that contraceptives often fail

Quote:2) Women do get raped. That pregnancy, too, is involuntary.

That's only 1% of abortions.

Quote:Why you think your religion gives you the right to tell other people what to do with their bodies is beyond me

Majority of people both in the US and the world are religious therefore atheist minority should obey their will.

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(October 29, 2023 at 7:11 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Every year American women kill 800,000 unborn babies. This is genocide.

No, that's not what genocide is. Look up words when you don't know their meanings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Quote:Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.

(October 29, 2023 at 1:28 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

Quote:No, you need an explanation otherwise any magic trick could be considered as evidence of supernatural.

Nope, no lack of an explanation leads to the supernatural merely ignorance till you produce actual evidence of the supernatural, and no other explanation is required to reject the supernatural.

Until 20th century the only source of light known to man was fire and scientists naturally believed that Sun was made of burning coal. They were obviously wrong. So no, evidence is not enough you also need an adequate explanation.

(October 30, 2023 at 7:59 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 8:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You implied without evidence that the brain was a transceiver. I ask for evidence and you instead shift the burden of proof.

I didn't make a claim. I simply proposed a possible non-physicalist explanation.

... without any evidence. Why should I give your twaddle any attention beyond telling you it's bullshit?

You don't present evidence, yet you demand it of me? Piss off with your double-standard, assmunch.

(October 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:02 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: No, if a woman can't get pregnant I'm not against her being sexually active.

So, only infertile women can fuck for pleasure?!?

Fertile women can be sexually active but they should live with consequences of their own actions. Don't want to become pregnant? Don't have sex with strangers.

YOU ARE STILL A FUCKING COWARD!!!!!! 

(October 30, 2023 at 8:20 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: So, only infertile women can fuck for pleasure?!?

Fertile women can be sexually active but they should live with consequences of their own actions. Don't want to become pregnant? Don't have sex with strangers.

Are you aware that you can become pregnant with someone who is not a stranger?