(November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Define "propaganda" please.

"Any art, literature, or music, produced or co-opted by the state, that is used for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."

You picked a specific definition to try to avoid looking stupid. You failed. "Propaganda is communication intended to promote an organization, product, social idea, or belief."

Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to your home town and sue the school system.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "Any art, literature, or music, produced or co-opted by the state, that is used for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."

You picked a specific definition to try to avoid looking stupid. You failed. "Propaganda is communication intended to promote an organization, product, social idea, or belief."

Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to  your home town and sue the school system.

Well I don't like that definition. My definition is better.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:15 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Where did you get this definition?

Pulled it out of my butt. But I think it's a solid definition.

That's nice. It could reflect common usage, but since it doesn't, it only means that to you and some small community of like-minded souls. Since you were disagreeing with others who were using a commonly embraced usage, substituting your personal definition is a form of equivocation and any conclusions you formed on the basis of it being the relevant definition become nonsequiturs.

Try again.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:18 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You picked a specific definition to try to avoid looking stupid. You failed. "Propaganda is communication intended to promote an organization, product, social idea, or belief."

Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to  your home town and sue the school system.

Well I don't like that definition. My definition is better.

Yeah, smaller words.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:18 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well I don't like that definition. My definition is better.

Yeah, smaller words.  

Well it's more specific, for one thing.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:41 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, smaller words.  

Well it's more specific, for one thing.

Your cup runneth over with virtues.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:41 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, smaller words.  

Well it's more specific, for one thing.

My point.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "Any art, literature, or music, produced or co-opted by the state, that is used for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."

You picked a specific definition to try to avoid looking stupid. You failed. "Propaganda is communication intended to promote an organization, product, social idea, or belief."

This seems so vague it could apply to nearly anything people write or speak. The concept of propaganda at least implies a reference to power dynamics, doesn't it?

Quote:Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to  your home town and sue the school system.

The personal attacks aren't making you look like the reasonable one here.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:52 pm)Istvan Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to  your home town and sue the school system.

The personal attacks aren't making you look like the reasonable one here.

Says the person making a personal attack.

(November 10, 2023 at 1:52 pm)Istvan Wrote:

(November 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You picked a specific definition to try to avoid looking stupid. You failed. "Propaganda is communication intended to promote an organization, product, social idea, or belief."

This seems so vague it could apply to nearly anything people write or speak. The concept of propaganda at least implies a reference to power dynamics, doesn't it?

Quote:Yet one more thing you didn't know. You might want to back to  your home town and sue the school system.

The personal attacks aren't making you look like the reasonable one here.

The definition I gave is accurate and doesn't exclude religion. Others, not so much.

As for attacks, it's a cruel world, Ahriman should sue, the system has failed for her/him/it.

Power dynamics, the Church is good at that. So you agree my definition is the accurate one. Thanks.