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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 2:24 am
Would you pretend to belive in god in order to be the king of England?
Prince William Told to Back Christianity or Abdicate
Prince William "has to accept" his future role as head of the Church of England or "step aside and abdicate," Queen Elizabeth II's former chaplain says.
Ashenden, the queen's chaplain from 2008 to 2017, said: "I think it's very interesting and it's almost certainly true. William doesn't show any signs of being alive to the vibrancy of Christian faith.
"And in that sense, he is very representative of his generation, but I don't think he understands the monarchy because although lots of people have talked about disestablishing the Church of England and changing our constitutional arrangements, they're immensely complex and they go back through 500 years of legislation.
"So I think he either has to accept the fact that this is a role he plays, whether he likes it or not, which is part actually of the burden of monarchy, or if he feels that strongly and he can't do it, then step aside and abdicate and see if there's somebody else in the Royal succession who can."
"In royal circles, it is no secret that he does not share the King's sense of the spiritual, let alone the late Queen's unshakeable devotion to the Anglican church."
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-william-...te-1861430
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 4:47 am
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(January 19, 2024 at 2:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Would you pretend to belive in god in order to be the king of England?
Prince William Told to Back Christianity or Abdicate
Prince William "has to accept" his future role as head of the Church of England or "step aside and abdicate," Queen Elizabeth II's former chaplain says.
Ashenden, the queen's chaplain from 2008 to 2017, said: "I think it's very interesting and it's almost certainly true. William doesn't show any signs of being alive to the vibrancy of Christian faith.
"And in that sense, he is very representative of his generation, but I don't think he understands the monarchy because although lots of people have talked about disestablishing the Church of England and changing our constitutional arrangements, they're immensely complex and they go back through 500 years of legislation.
"So I think he either has to accept the fact that this is a role he plays, whether he likes it or not, which is part actually of the burden of monarchy, or if he feels that strongly and he can't do it, then step aside and abdicate and see if there's somebody else in the Royal succession who can."
"In royal circles, it is no secret that he does not share the King's sense of the spiritual, let alone the late Queen's unshakeable devotion to the Anglican church."
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-william-...te-1861430
(Bold mine)
I may be missing something, but I think that would make him the perfect choice to head up the CofE.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 8:09 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2024 at 9:20 am by neil.)
(January 19, 2024 at 2:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Would you pretend to belive in god in order to be the king of England?
Prince William Told to Back Christianity or Abdicate
Prince William "has to accept" his future role as head of the Church of England or "step aside and abdicate," Queen Elizabeth II's former chaplain says.
Ashenden, the queen's chaplain from 2008 to 2017, said: "I think it's very interesting and it's almost certainly true. William doesn't show any signs of being alive to the vibrancy of Christian faith.
"And in that sense, he is very representative of his generation, but I don't think he understands the monarchy because although lots of people have talked about disestablishing the Church of England and changing our constitutional arrangements, they're immensely complex and they go back through 500 years of legislation.
"So I think he either has to accept the fact that this is a role he plays, whether he likes it or not, which is part actually of the burden of monarchy, or if he feels that strongly and he can't do it, then step aside and abdicate and see if there's somebody else in the Royal succession who can."
"In royal circles, it is no secret that he does not share the King's sense of the spiritual, let alone the late Queen's unshakeable devotion to the Anglican church."
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-william-...te-1861430
I'm an American, so personally I don't care about some monarchy in some foreign country. Monarchies live off the slavery of their peasants, and they basically seem to be based on religious backing.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 8:50 am
As Niccolò Machiavelli said in The Prince
“There is nothing more important than appearing to be religious.”
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 9:01 am
......not even oxygen, which is exactly the reason the religious are brain dead.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 9:20 am
As a Brit all I can say is that I don't give a toss what they do, it will have zero effect on my life.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 10:10 am
(January 18, 2024 at 11:49 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (January 18, 2024 at 10:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: 400 Good Guys with Guns waited 77 minutes while 23 people were murdered.
From the article:
“Had law enforcement agencies followed generally accepted practices in an active shooter situation and gone right after the shooter to stop him, lives would have been saved and people would have survived,”
But, cops, the people allegedly trained and payed to deal with these situations, might have been killed, and that we cannot have. Dead teachers? Fine.* Dead kids? Acceptable.* Dead cops? That's a bridge too fucking far!* Besides, just think of the cost to the taxpayer for those funeral parades.
(*)At least, according to out elected officials based on their thoughts, prayers, and lack of meaningful efforts to curb these fucking atrocities.
That's why they get paid the big bucks. <shrug>
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 19, 2024 at 5:58 pm
(January 19, 2024 at 2:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Would you pretend to belive in god in order to be the king of England?
Prince William Told to Back Christianity or Abdicate
Prince William "has to accept" his future role as head of the Church of England or "step aside and abdicate," Queen Elizabeth II's former chaplain says.
Ashenden, the queen's chaplain from 2008 to 2017, said: "I think it's very interesting and it's almost certainly true. William doesn't show any signs of being alive to the vibrancy of Christian faith.
"And in that sense, he is very representative of his generation, but I don't think he understands the monarchy because although lots of people have talked about disestablishing the Church of England and changing our constitutional arrangements, they're immensely complex and they go back through 500 years of legislation.
"So I think he either has to accept the fact that this is a role he plays, whether he likes it or not, which is part actually of the burden of monarchy, or if he feels that strongly and he can't do it, then step aside and abdicate and see if there's somebody else in the Royal succession who can."
"In royal circles, it is no secret that he does not share the King's sense of the spiritual, let alone the late Queen's unshakeable devotion to the Anglican church."
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-william-...te-1861430
Sounds like nothing more than desperation. Of course I don't know how much weight 'I think' holds coming from a former chaplain.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 20, 2024 at 11:46 am
Quote:Jan 19 (Reuters) - A prosecutor in Uvalde, Texas, has convened a grand jury to investigate whether police were criminally liable for failing to promptly storm a classroom in a 2022 mass shooting that killed 19 schoolchildren and two teachers, Texas media reported.
District Attorney Christina Mitchell said the grand jury would review evidence and weigh possible criminal charges, the San Antonio Express-News reported on Friday.
Mitchell, whose district includes the town of Uvalde about 80 miles (130 km) west of San Antonio, did not respond to Reuters requests for comment.
The 18-year-old shooter at Robb Elementary School was shot dead by police but not until they waited more than an hour before breaking into the adjoining fourth-grade classrooms, in what a U.S. Justice Department review called a critical failure.
Lives would have been saved if police from several agencies had followed generally accepted practices for an active shooter situation and immediately attempted to take him down, Attorney General Merrick Garland told a press conference in Uvalde on Thursday.
It was one of the deadliest school shootings in U.S. history, but like the other has had little effect on gun regulation, as courts and legislatures have generally upheld the individual right to carry arms.
Mitchell said her decision to investigate was not in response to the Justice Department report as she had planned to convene the grand jury before knowing the review would be made public, the Express-News reported.
She did not disclose what the grand jury would focus on in its secret proceedings. But she previously said the issues of whether police could be held criminally responsible or whether anyone helped the shooter buy weapons or ammunition could be subject to investigation, the newspaper said.
The Uvalde Leader-News, without attribution, reported that a dozen people were selected on Friday to serve on the special grand jury, which was expected to spend at least six months studying the events of May 24, 2022.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/uvalde-...024-01-20/
It's about fuckin' time.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 20, 2024 at 12:49 pm
^’But if we broke down the doors, we would have taken fire.’ No shit, genius - welcome to the profession of arms. It’s your goddam JOB.
And if YOU’RE taking fire, it means those kids aren’t.
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