(November 29, 2024 at 12:53 am)Silver Wrote: There's always someone else to fill your role in the workplace. Never assume you are irreplaceable.

I don't.

A joke does not affect productivity - going to HR and causing internal strife does.

Seems to me like getting rid of the problem of thin skin would be far easier, and they are just as irreplicable as anyone else.

(November 29, 2024 at 12:56 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:46 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: I believe workplaces should be about productivity, not politics.

I believe workplaces should be about equal opportunity for all.  Your mileage seems to vary.

A joke infringes on your right to equal opportunity?

(November 29, 2024 at 12:51 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:49 am)Silver Wrote: Men behaving as uncultured cavemen in the workplace will not ensure greater productivity.

Having your more productive workers fired for jokes that hurt less productive workers feelings will ensure reduced productivity.

Who do you think are "more productive"? Or less productive? Be specific. You introduced those categories; now define them.

(November 29, 2024 at 12:55 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Either that or, if an employer says something sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or what have you, to an employee, said employee should just take it up the ass and not complain.

Correct.

If they harass you - i.e. continue to say these things around you after you have explicitly told them not to - you are in the right to complain to your boss for harassment. If it was an intentional "trolling" harassment, they should be fired on the spot without further question.

Otherwise, you are free to ignore it.

Coworkers said *plenty* of things I found offensive over the years, but I just ignored them, did my job, went home and ate my dinner. It's not hard, it really isn't.

(November 29, 2024 at 12:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:56 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I believe workplaces should be about equal opportunity for all.  Your mileage seems to vary.

A joke infringes on your right to equal opportunity?

I don’t know, will it, Mayonnaise boy? If not, I guess it wouldn’t mind if I kept calling you Mayonnaise Boy. Am I right or am I right, Mayonnaise Boy?

(November 29, 2024 at 12:58 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:51 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Having your more productive workers fired for jokes that hurt less productive workers feelings will ensure reduced productivity.

Who do you think are "more productive"? Or less productive? Be specific. You introduced those categories; now define them.

People who aren't offended over jokes to the point they would get some one fired over it.

There's nothing quite like the anger of it no longer being the 1950's rearing its ugly head.

(November 29, 2024 at 1:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: A joke infringes on your right to equal opportunity?

I don’t know, will it, Mayonnaise boy? If not, I guess it wouldn’t mind if I kept calling you Mayonnaise Boy. Am I right or am I right, Mayonnaise Boy?

Let me check... yeah no, rights seem to be a-okay.

(November 29, 2024 at 12:58 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:56 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I believe workplaces should be about equal opportunity for all.  Your mileage seems to vary.

A joke infringes on your right to equal opportunity?

What joke are you talking about? I'm talking about attitudes regarding race and gender. If you think that's fodder for jokes, that say more about you than me.

If I made a "joke" at your workplace about Mexican-Americans (which you claim to be) being lazy and/or drunk, what might you think about how welcome you are at that worksite?

To answer your question directly, yes, management attitudes make all the difference when it comes to equal opportunity.

(November 29, 2024 at 1:00 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(November 29, 2024 at 12:58 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Who do you think are "more productive"? Or less productive? Be specific. You introduced those categories; now define them.

People who aren't offended over jokes to the point they would get some one fired over it.

What about people who say, "I don't like being treated this way, would you please remind the team to be respectful of coworkers?" without urging the firing of anyone? Maybe you think speaking up is baaaaaad?