(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 11, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Have you actually read the bible? Another irony overload, please do keep these comedy gold moments coming.

I have - I have even asked this question multiple times now, without response; if you want to break that mold, I will appreciate it...

...what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices?

Last I checked your book of mythology, it was the Israelites that were the hostile foreign force and that's precisely what they did to everybody living in their "promised land". Apparently your "god" was too thunderingly stoopid to find them somewhere uninhabited to live.

Chosen Ones are a typical trope for the world of fiction.

Even with God’s help, the Israelites were stopped cold by iron chariots. I have a lot of iron on hand, so God has no power over me. If it needs to be a chariot specifically, I’m sure I could throw one together in a week or so.

Boru: 1 God: nil

(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.

Is that why he dooms people to hell if they don't believe in him? Some free will there! "Think as I command or suffer for eternity!"

You may as well argue that the victim of an armed robbery willingly surrendered his wallet, and never mind the pistol in his face.

Typical shallow argument, devoid of deeper thinking. Classic apologist vacuities which never examine the ramifications of their own claims.

When you first got here, I thought you were actually something new. Now I see you're just a run-of-the-mill programmed nonthinker.

(December 12, 2024 at 1:57 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:

(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.

You know god loathes you?

It tells you this right in the front of the book you don’t read or understand.

I agree with your god

Genesis 6:6
New International Version

6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

(December 12, 2024 at 1:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote:

(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.

Yeah, behind porn and cocaine right?

Pussy and beer FTW!

(December 12, 2024 at 4:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 12, 2024 at 1:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Yeah, behind porn and cocaine right?

Pussy and beer FTW!

But would you at least settle for Titties and Beer?

Quote:6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.


You know god loathes you?

It tells you this right in the front of the book you don’t read or understand.

Bro... :lol:

Appreciate that one, that was good. Sometimes it's worth it.

Quote:Is that why he dooms people to hell if they don't believe in him? Some free will there! "Think as I command or suffer for eternity!"

People doom themselves to hell when they choose to reject a place in God's presence, and yet again atheists struggle with even the most basic of concepts and think themselves master theologians.

(December 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Presumably to continue and allow his creation to have free will, perhaps the third best gift ever given to man.

Is it, though? In the universe created by your god, exercising free will leads to much suffering during our lifetimes, and eternal suffering for a great many people afterwards. Had he designed us to be incapable of sin, every one of us would enjoy an eternity by his side in heaven.

In this context, what is the value of being able to choose? What good is it to have been capable of sin? Wouldn't we be better off with just the one choice?