(December 15, 2024 at 2:31 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: The very notion that Christianity is persecuted is laughable considering the biases in their favour.

I'm sorry you find the persecution of over 300 million people laughable; do you think that maybe should be a red flag - say if I was to come here and start justifying the violent persecution of even 10 atheists, started saying it's "laughable" when I hear those atheists are being sold into sex slavery or used as child soldiers after their parents are killed?

It really seems like anyone outside of the West (see; "white") world doesn't seem to hold much meaning or ever even cross yall's mind...

(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 15, 2024 at 12:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The human species, like all other mammals, has a certainly percentage of homosexual/bisexual members. The fact that homosexuals are a minority in no way implies that their sexuality is unnatural, any more than blue eyes being in the minority means that we with blue eyes are genetically-modified.

That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.

Quote:Then, too, you're entirely ignoring the fact that you, who claim that your god created everything, must accept that he created homosexuals too. Is any part of your god's creation "unnatural"? How is it your "perfect" god should create these damnable souls? Were they a surprise?

We have already discussed the fact that Christians believe in the concept of free will, I will not be repeating myself.

How about just shut the fuck up completely?

(December 15, 2024 at 4:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.


We have already discussed the fact that Christians believe in the concept of free will, I will not be repeating myself.

How about just shut the fuck up completely?

How about you rub my toes?

Need a synonym of "white" so you can try another racist angle on me to compensate for you lack of anything intelligent to say?

(December 15, 2024 at 4:43 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(December 15, 2024 at 12:48 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Humans evolved to do this, but that's irrelevant as homosexuality is observed in numerous other species on the planet and the fact our bodies evolved to do X does not in any way demonstrate it isn't nature (As it occurs in nature). Try again

I'm good - seeing you call acts like rape, filicide and pedophilia normal was pathetic enough.

I said natural not morally okay there is a difference indeed all the acts above are natural in the sense they take place in nature but it's just not the same. This response is what's pathetic as you are comparing mere attraction to member of the same sex to the predation of children, Non consensual sex or murder of which it's nothing alike.

Quote:That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.

You have not demonstrated it's unnatural. It's most definitely natural. The question of morality is separate and no Homosexuality is just as moral heterosexuality as long as it's consensual and between unrelated adults. Nor is it impractical because this assumes that reproduction ought be the purpose of sex. No ones saying crimes are normal homosexuality is not criminal in an of itself.

Quote:How about you rub my toes?

How about she doesn't 

Quote:Need a synonym of "white" so you can try another racist angle on me to compensate for you lack of anything intelligent to say?

Another baseless accusation of racism 

Quote:I'm sorry I don't give al-Qaeda and ISIS Jihadis the benefit of the doubt, that they are actually my friend and I'm just being bigoted - that the people trading thousands of Kurds as sex slaves just a year ago suddenly are good guys who will leave everyone in peace.

So again we about what you trust .....Because why?

(December 15, 2024 at 5:20 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

Quote:Need a synonym of "white" so you can try another racist angle on me to compensate for you lack of anything intelligent to say?

Another baseless accusation of racism 

Making prejudiced remarks  - that were wrong - based upon the *perceived* color of my skin is racism.

Quote:Making prejudiced remarks  - that were wrong - based upon the *perceived* color of my skin is racism.

Which hasn't happened despite your constant interpretation of everything being a racist

(December 15, 2024 at 5:24 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

Quote:I'm sorry I don't give al-Qaeda and ISIS Jihadis the benefit of the doubt, that they are actually my friend and I'm just being bigoted - that the people trading thousands of Kurds as sex slaves just a year ago suddenly are good guys who will leave everyone in peace.

So again we about what you trust .....Because why?

I didn't realize you weren't old enough to know about them, my apologies.

ISIS and Al Qaeda are/were two Islamic Jihadi groups of the Middle East that caused us a lot of problems over the last two decades - they have been fairly checked in your life time, but for awhile there they were the "Russia/China" of importance and we even went into the countries they had established strongholds in to check their power; you might remember the American withdrawl of troops from Afghanistan a few years and the Talibans' assumption of power there?

Same dynamic and same war but just a different faction - and given the thousands of Americans they killed, the bombs in subways or public events, the thousands of Kurds they have forced into slavery and tens of thousands they have butchered, and their strict adherence to an extremely radical and fundamental branch of Islam should be a good indicator of why you shouldn't trust them.